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The result was keep. The sources provided have not been explicitly refuted with respect to GNG. Vanamonde ( Talk) 21:48, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nom, fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON. Onel5969 TT me 20:52, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. College offensive linemen almost never get significant coverage. Vahe is an exception who passes WP:GNG with significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources. Examples include: (1) this two- parter from March 2017; (2) another two- parter from November 2015; (3) this from February 2015, and (4) this from August 2018; (5) this from August 2017; (6) this from August 2017; (7) this from August 2017; (8) this from September 2016; (9) this from November 2015; and (10) this from August 2013; and (11) this from August 2017. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep yeah although he didn't make the roster seems notable from his College days. Getmefood ( talk) 12:19, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The first criteria in WP:NGRIDIRON says that to be notable the player must "have appeared in at least one regular season or post season game in any one of the following professional leagues: the Arena Football League, the Canadian Football League, the National Football League, the fourth American Football League, the All-America Football Conference or the United States Football League, or any other top-level professional league." He does not meet this criteria. Some have also highlighted that rule number 2 seems to offer an exception to this rule and that exception is that "unless they meet another criterion, such as notability arising from their college football days." I don't think NCAA players are inherently notable like the the NFL noted above and he also fails WP:NCOLLATH. IndusFish ( talk) 15:50, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- @ IndusFish: Your premise is flawed. It is long- and well-established that college football players are notable if they pass WP:GNG. See Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Notability#Player notability discussion library. Cbl62 ( talk) 19:20, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Cbl62's sources. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 08:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep meets GNG per Cbl62. Lepricavark ( talk) 20:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. The sources provided have not been explicitly refuted with respect to GNG. Vanamonde ( Talk) 21:48, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nom, fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON. Onel5969 TT me 20:52, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. College offensive linemen almost never get significant coverage. Vahe is an exception who passes WP:GNG with significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources. Examples include: (1) this two- parter from March 2017; (2) another two- parter from November 2015; (3) this from February 2015, and (4) this from August 2018; (5) this from August 2017; (6) this from August 2017; (7) this from August 2017; (8) this from September 2016; (9) this from November 2015; and (10) this from August 2013; and (11) this from August 2017. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep yeah although he didn't make the roster seems notable from his College days. Getmefood ( talk) 12:19, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The first criteria in WP:NGRIDIRON says that to be notable the player must "have appeared in at least one regular season or post season game in any one of the following professional leagues: the Arena Football League, the Canadian Football League, the National Football League, the fourth American Football League, the All-America Football Conference or the United States Football League, or any other top-level professional league." He does not meet this criteria. Some have also highlighted that rule number 2 seems to offer an exception to this rule and that exception is that "unless they meet another criterion, such as notability arising from their college football days." I don't think NCAA players are inherently notable like the the NFL noted above and he also fails WP:NCOLLATH. IndusFish ( talk) 15:50, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- @ IndusFish: Your premise is flawed. It is long- and well-established that college football players are notable if they pass WP:GNG. See Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Notability#Player notability discussion library. Cbl62 ( talk) 19:20, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Cbl62's sources. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 08:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep meets GNG per Cbl62. Lepricavark ( talk) 20:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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