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The result was no consensus. But there does seem to be consensus that a redirect to a list article would be preferable for this person and similar figures. Sandstein 08:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Pantaleon of Pydna
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Doesn't meet GNG as no significant coverage exists in reliable sources. All that is known of Pantaleon is a single mention in Arrian, and where reliable sources mention him, it is simply to restate the one fact that we know about him from that mention. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 16:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and History. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 16:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -- I would prefer to redirect to some kind of list, rather than deleting, but I am struggling to find a suitable target. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I was thinking the same thing as Peterkingiron. Is it possible we could make a list of Greek (or perhaps Hellenistic) military officers, with one- or two-sentence summaries, and links to those who have their own articles? It wouldn't need to be complete or perfect, but it would provide a way to save content from articles such as this one, and group related articles. P Aculeius ( talk) 21:02, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: I think there is enough secondary coverage -- 1, 2, 3 -- to merit an article. Failing that, redirect to Companion cavalry. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 16:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that any of those constitute significant coverage; they are all simply repeating the single fact about Pantaleon that we know from Arrian. Redirecting to
Companion cavalry seems likely to be more confusing than anything, as he is not (and should not be!) mentioned there.
Caeciliusinhorto (
talk)
19:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see why he has to be directly mentioned at Companion cavalry. The most important fact about the subject was that he was a hetairos, so why not redirect any interested reader who searches for him to the relevant article?
- Failing that, perhaps we could redirect to Pantaleon (disambiguation). 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 09:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that any of those constitute significant coverage; they are all simply repeating the single fact about Pantaleon that we know from Arrian. Redirecting to
Companion cavalry seems likely to be more confusing than anything, as he is not (and should not be!) mentioned there.
Caeciliusinhorto (
talk)
19:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 07:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion of possible redirects, it would help if one was proposed over the others.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, apparently not in the RE. T8612 (talk) 03:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was no consensus. But there does seem to be consensus that a redirect to a list article would be preferable for this person and similar figures. Sandstein 08:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Pantaleon of Pydna
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Doesn't meet GNG as no significant coverage exists in reliable sources. All that is known of Pantaleon is a single mention in Arrian, and where reliable sources mention him, it is simply to restate the one fact that we know about him from that mention. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 16:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and History. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 16:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -- I would prefer to redirect to some kind of list, rather than deleting, but I am struggling to find a suitable target. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I was thinking the same thing as Peterkingiron. Is it possible we could make a list of Greek (or perhaps Hellenistic) military officers, with one- or two-sentence summaries, and links to those who have their own articles? It wouldn't need to be complete or perfect, but it would provide a way to save content from articles such as this one, and group related articles. P Aculeius ( talk) 21:02, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: I think there is enough secondary coverage -- 1, 2, 3 -- to merit an article. Failing that, redirect to Companion cavalry. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 16:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that any of those constitute significant coverage; they are all simply repeating the single fact about Pantaleon that we know from Arrian. Redirecting to
Companion cavalry seems likely to be more confusing than anything, as he is not (and should not be!) mentioned there.
Caeciliusinhorto (
talk)
19:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see why he has to be directly mentioned at Companion cavalry. The most important fact about the subject was that he was a hetairos, so why not redirect any interested reader who searches for him to the relevant article?
- Failing that, perhaps we could redirect to Pantaleon (disambiguation). 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 09:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that any of those constitute significant coverage; they are all simply repeating the single fact about Pantaleon that we know from Arrian. Redirecting to
Companion cavalry seems likely to be more confusing than anything, as he is not (and should not be!) mentioned there.
Caeciliusinhorto (
talk)
19:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 07:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion of possible redirects, it would help if one was proposed over the others.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, apparently not in the RE. T8612 (talk) 03:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.