- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 12:07, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- You insincere hidden person you, Wiki is not to be recommended further, in many ways. Delete is all you can. 95.90.178.32 ( talk) 17:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
PISCIDE
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unsourced article about some unnotable band probably written by one of the band members (Anke Scheffler is the mastermind of PISCIDE
).
lettherebedarklight
晚安
09:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. lettherebedarklight 晚安 09:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
source: https://www.depechemode.de/piscide-veroeffentlichen-neues-album-6051/
Lettherebedarklight seems prejudiced and may have a conflict of interest (COI) - see user profile, username and past edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.90.178.54 ( talk) 11:33, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- literally how lettherebedarklight 晚安 12:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete no critical coverage found, only various streaming sites.
Oaktree b (
talk)
13:08, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Usually indie bands makin 'n' sellin music, no? Seems they are well known in the electro scene. Howbeit, Spotify, amazon 'n' apple released this stuff.
95.90.178.43 (
talk)
18:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- We aren't here to sell your stuff, we rely on coverage in media outlets. Yes. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:39, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Usually indie bands makin 'n' sellin music, no? Seems they are well known in the electro scene. Howbeit, Spotify, amazon 'n' apple released this stuff.
95.90.178.43 (
talk)
18:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Threat of withholding donations
Talk:PISCIDE#Deletion is the great American freedom?
YOU want donations, millions of dollars?
. Adakiko ( talk) 00:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)- I don't want any donations, the Wikimedia Foundation perhaps does. I don't work for them and I don't work for you. I do this on my own time, for my pleasure. This site doesn't just happen, people need to run it and discuss how things are kept. AfD is about providing reliable information found in neutral sources that have no connection to the subject. GNG in particular, and MUSIC in your case. It helps if the musical group has had some coverage in media or if they've had a song that's charted somewhere. Not everyone gets an article on wikipedia and we need to maintain a certain standard or this all goes down the proverbial toilet. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:45, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'm also not American, so your "freedom" isn't my concern. This is for an international audience and again, we aren't here to help you sell your stuff. Get some coverage happening in reliable sources, then we can revisit. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- There may be some confusion here. Adakiko is referencing a tirade on the band's talk page in which someone else (an anonymous user) tried the Hitler thing. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 15:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I would encourage 95.90 to review [1] Oaktree b ( talk) 15:42, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Oaktree b above. Also
95.90.178.53 and
PiCNT (apparent COIs) did not supply sources after numerous requests on their talk page and article talk page.
Adakiko (
talk)
00:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- PiCNT has retired from wikipedia. We wish them well Oaktree b ( talk) 13:25, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The German Wiki article was deleted 29 January 2007 as "irrelevant / sla". deletion log Adakiko ( talk) 00:17, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - When a band's supporters compare a call for evidence to the Holocaust, you know the prospects for
notability are slim. Wikipedia is not a
promotional service, and to qualify for an article here, the band would need to get noticed by the reliable music media and not just its own social media and self-upload streaming services. That hasn't happened despite a lengthy career, but thinking that a
comparison to Hitler would work is cute in a desperate sort of way. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
15:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Even more red flags, and somewhat disrespectful. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Delete. Thoroughly non-notable band, completely promotional (
Anke Scheffler is the mastermind of PISCIDE, to exhaust synthesizers and sequencer is her passion
), article is unsourced, and I could not find refs counting towards WP:GNG/ WP:NBAND. VickKiang (talk) 22:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 12:07, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- You insincere hidden person you, Wiki is not to be recommended further, in many ways. Delete is all you can. 95.90.178.32 ( talk) 17:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
PISCIDE
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- PISCIDE ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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unsourced article about some unnotable band probably written by one of the band members (Anke Scheffler is the mastermind of PISCIDE
).
lettherebedarklight
晚安
09:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. lettherebedarklight 晚安 09:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
source: https://www.depechemode.de/piscide-veroeffentlichen-neues-album-6051/
Lettherebedarklight seems prejudiced and may have a conflict of interest (COI) - see user profile, username and past edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.90.178.54 ( talk) 11:33, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- literally how lettherebedarklight 晚安 12:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete no critical coverage found, only various streaming sites.
Oaktree b (
talk)
13:08, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Usually indie bands makin 'n' sellin music, no? Seems they are well known in the electro scene. Howbeit, Spotify, amazon 'n' apple released this stuff.
95.90.178.43 (
talk)
18:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- We aren't here to sell your stuff, we rely on coverage in media outlets. Yes. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:39, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Usually indie bands makin 'n' sellin music, no? Seems they are well known in the electro scene. Howbeit, Spotify, amazon 'n' apple released this stuff.
95.90.178.43 (
talk)
18:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Threat of withholding donations
Talk:PISCIDE#Deletion is the great American freedom?
YOU want donations, millions of dollars?
. Adakiko ( talk) 00:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)- I don't want any donations, the Wikimedia Foundation perhaps does. I don't work for them and I don't work for you. I do this on my own time, for my pleasure. This site doesn't just happen, people need to run it and discuss how things are kept. AfD is about providing reliable information found in neutral sources that have no connection to the subject. GNG in particular, and MUSIC in your case. It helps if the musical group has had some coverage in media or if they've had a song that's charted somewhere. Not everyone gets an article on wikipedia and we need to maintain a certain standard or this all goes down the proverbial toilet. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:45, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'm also not American, so your "freedom" isn't my concern. This is for an international audience and again, we aren't here to help you sell your stuff. Get some coverage happening in reliable sources, then we can revisit. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- There may be some confusion here. Adakiko is referencing a tirade on the band's talk page in which someone else (an anonymous user) tried the Hitler thing. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 15:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I would encourage 95.90 to review [1] Oaktree b ( talk) 15:42, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Oaktree b above. Also
95.90.178.53 and
PiCNT (apparent COIs) did not supply sources after numerous requests on their talk page and article talk page.
Adakiko (
talk)
00:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- PiCNT has retired from wikipedia. We wish them well Oaktree b ( talk) 13:25, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The German Wiki article was deleted 29 January 2007 as "irrelevant / sla". deletion log Adakiko ( talk) 00:17, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - When a band's supporters compare a call for evidence to the Holocaust, you know the prospects for
notability are slim. Wikipedia is not a
promotional service, and to qualify for an article here, the band would need to get noticed by the reliable music media and not just its own social media and self-upload streaming services. That hasn't happened despite a lengthy career, but thinking that a
comparison to Hitler would work is cute in a desperate sort of way. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
15:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Even more red flags, and somewhat disrespectful. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Delete. Thoroughly non-notable band, completely promotional (
Anke Scheffler is the mastermind of PISCIDE, to exhaust synthesizers and sequencer is her passion
), article is unsourced, and I could not find refs counting towards WP:GNG/ WP:NBAND. VickKiang (talk) 22:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.