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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 09:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC) reply

P. K. Firos

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A non notable poltician who was the member of the state committe of the students wing of a party. No evidence of notability and Fails GNG Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ "Firos accuses Pinarayi of misleading Assembly". The Hindu. 4 December 2018.
  2. ^ "CM just repeating Minister Jaleel's arguments: PK Firos". The New Indian Express. 5 December 2018.
  3. ^ Rajeev, K. R. (5 February 2019). "Irregular appointment row: Firos releases CPM MLA's letter to substantiate charges | Kozhikode News - Times of India". The Times of India.
  4. ^ "Muslim Youth League uses CPM MLA's letter to corner ruling party". The New Indian Express. 6 February 2019.
  5. ^ Daily, Keralakaumudi (5 July 2019). "Nepotism charges against K T Jaleel politically-motivated: HC raps P K Firos". Keralakaumudi Daily.
  6. ^ "Youth Leage, BJP demand probe into links of Kerala CPI(M) secretary's son with B'luru drug case accused". Outlook India. 2 September 2020.
  7. ^ "CPM attempts for backdoor appointments in Calicut University, alleges Youth League". Mathrubhumi. 22 September 2020.
  8. ^ "Gold smuggling case: Jaleel trying to destroy evidence, says Firoz". The Hindu. 15 September 2020.
  9. ^ "CPM flouting norms in appointing CU staff: P K Firos | Kochi News - Times of India". The Times of India. 23 September 2020.
  10. ^ "Misappropriation of Kathua-Unnao fund; Youth League's PK Firoz faces allegation". Mathrubhumi. 2 February 2021.
  11. ^ "Kathua fund scam: Police book Muslim Youth League leaders PK Firos, CK Subair". OnManorama. 17 February 2021.
There appears to be a lack of BEFORE here and a conflation of content with notability; AfD is not cleanup. Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 01:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • addendum: it is a precedent that if a politician doesnt pass WP:NPOL, then they have to pass gemeral notability cirteria with high standards. If a person has state or national level party designation, they obviously would get coverage. Hence they need sustained, and in-depth coverage. I stand by my delete arguement above. —usernamekiran (talk) 11:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
    • usernamekiran, the links Goldsztajn and I have provided suffices for WP:GNG. From a simple reading it's clear that the subject is a notable personality in Kerala politics. -- Soman ( talk) 18:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
      • Soman, the sources provided here is a case of WP:REFBOMB. None of the sources are giving enough coverage about the person in depth. Most of them are just mentions about him or any controversy he has been involved with. Kichu🐘 Discuss 19:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
        • Sorry, but WP:REFBOMB refers to the use of reference in article mainspace. It does not apply in deletion discussions. We could go through link by link and explain why they qualify as indicators of notability. Or you could perform a WP:BEFORE process prior to nominating AfD. -- Soman ( talk) 19:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NPOL. We have consistently deleted the presidents of youth leagues and young party-publicans, unless they get elected to an actual office. There are few clearer precedents, and consensus is unlikely to change. Bearian ( talk) 23:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Whatever the outcomes of those previous discussions, and if memory serves me correctly I've previously !voted delete in *some* cases of state-level party office holders, they are irrelevant when there is clear RS which establishes notability satisfying the GNG. Your statement misconstrues WP:POLOUTCOMES by implying that failing NPOL would trump passing the GNG, which has no community consensus whatsoever: Leaders of major sub-national (state, province, prefecture, etc.) parties are usually deleted unless notability can be demonstrated for other reasons (emphasis added). Regards,-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 04:44, 11 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs more consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jupitus Smart 05:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete : Fails WP:NPOL. And the sources provided doesnot give significant coverage about him thus failing WP:GNG also. Poppified talk 13:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Current sources fails in passing GNG and NPOL. Setreis ( talk) 16:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails NPOL. -- RaviC ( talk) 23:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/P._K._Firos&oldid=1013563469"
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 09:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC) reply

P. K. Firos

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P. K. Firos (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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A non notable poltician who was the member of the state committe of the students wing of a party. No evidence of notability and Fails GNG Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ "Firos accuses Pinarayi of misleading Assembly". The Hindu. 4 December 2018.
  2. ^ "CM just repeating Minister Jaleel's arguments: PK Firos". The New Indian Express. 5 December 2018.
  3. ^ Rajeev, K. R. (5 February 2019). "Irregular appointment row: Firos releases CPM MLA's letter to substantiate charges | Kozhikode News - Times of India". The Times of India.
  4. ^ "Muslim Youth League uses CPM MLA's letter to corner ruling party". The New Indian Express. 6 February 2019.
  5. ^ Daily, Keralakaumudi (5 July 2019). "Nepotism charges against K T Jaleel politically-motivated: HC raps P K Firos". Keralakaumudi Daily.
  6. ^ "Youth Leage, BJP demand probe into links of Kerala CPI(M) secretary's son with B'luru drug case accused". Outlook India. 2 September 2020.
  7. ^ "CPM attempts for backdoor appointments in Calicut University, alleges Youth League". Mathrubhumi. 22 September 2020.
  8. ^ "Gold smuggling case: Jaleel trying to destroy evidence, says Firoz". The Hindu. 15 September 2020.
  9. ^ "CPM flouting norms in appointing CU staff: P K Firos | Kochi News - Times of India". The Times of India. 23 September 2020.
  10. ^ "Misappropriation of Kathua-Unnao fund; Youth League's PK Firoz faces allegation". Mathrubhumi. 2 February 2021.
  11. ^ "Kathua fund scam: Police book Muslim Youth League leaders PK Firos, CK Subair". OnManorama. 17 February 2021.
There appears to be a lack of BEFORE here and a conflation of content with notability; AfD is not cleanup. Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 01:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • addendum: it is a precedent that if a politician doesnt pass WP:NPOL, then they have to pass gemeral notability cirteria with high standards. If a person has state or national level party designation, they obviously would get coverage. Hence they need sustained, and in-depth coverage. I stand by my delete arguement above. —usernamekiran (talk) 11:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
    • usernamekiran, the links Goldsztajn and I have provided suffices for WP:GNG. From a simple reading it's clear that the subject is a notable personality in Kerala politics. -- Soman ( talk) 18:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
      • Soman, the sources provided here is a case of WP:REFBOMB. None of the sources are giving enough coverage about the person in depth. Most of them are just mentions about him or any controversy he has been involved with. Kichu🐘 Discuss 19:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
        • Sorry, but WP:REFBOMB refers to the use of reference in article mainspace. It does not apply in deletion discussions. We could go through link by link and explain why they qualify as indicators of notability. Or you could perform a WP:BEFORE process prior to nominating AfD. -- Soman ( talk) 19:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NPOL. We have consistently deleted the presidents of youth leagues and young party-publicans, unless they get elected to an actual office. There are few clearer precedents, and consensus is unlikely to change. Bearian ( talk) 23:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Whatever the outcomes of those previous discussions, and if memory serves me correctly I've previously !voted delete in *some* cases of state-level party office holders, they are irrelevant when there is clear RS which establishes notability satisfying the GNG. Your statement misconstrues WP:POLOUTCOMES by implying that failing NPOL would trump passing the GNG, which has no community consensus whatsoever: Leaders of major sub-national (state, province, prefecture, etc.) parties are usually deleted unless notability can be demonstrated for other reasons (emphasis added). Regards,-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 04:44, 11 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs more consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jupitus Smart 05:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete : Fails WP:NPOL. And the sources provided doesnot give significant coverage about him thus failing WP:GNG also. Poppified talk 13:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Current sources fails in passing GNG and NPOL. Setreis ( talk) 16:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails NPOL. -- RaviC ( talk) 23:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/P._K._Firos&oldid=1013563469"

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