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The result was keep. JPL's BLP concerns appear to have been addressed. A Train talk 12:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Oskar Keymer
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WP:BLP of an actor, with no strong claim of notability per WP:NACTOR and no reliable source coverage to support it. His roles so far appear to be minor ones, not "major" roles for the purposes of clearing NACTOR, because none of the ones that have Wikipedia articles list him in their cast lists at all, and several of them don't even appear in his IMDb credits either, and the article doesn't cite any references at all. As always, every actor does not automatically get a Wikipedia article just because he has an IMDb profile -- he needs to be the subject of media coverage for an article to become earned, but there's no evidence that Oskar Keymer has been. And his article on de: doesn't cite any references either, so we can't just salvage this by copying anything over from there. The only reason I'm not also listing the German article for deletion is that I don't speak or write German in order to navigate the process. Bearcat ( talk) 18:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep
Delete Non notable child actor. L3X1 (distænt write) 22:44, 17 December 2017 (UTC)- Changed after reading below sources L3X1 Happy2018! (distænt write) 14:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Clearly notable as lead actor in de:Hilfe, ich hab meine Lehrerin geschrumpft, with other leading roles in de:Conni & Co and its sequel. — Kusma ( t· c) 11:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- Comment
Kusma, this is an unreferenced blp. Do you have multiple, independent sources to confirm notability? Thanks,
Boleyn (
talk) 19:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am aware that this is currently a completely unreferenced BLP (so I'm not voting "keep"), but he does meet WP:NACTOR per his films (which unfortunately don't have articles in English). Possible sources: [1] (mentioning his date of birth), [2], [3]. (Just from a Google News search for his name). — Kusma ( t· c) 21:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric 09:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
- Strong delete the only source listed in the article is IMDb, and IMDB is not a reliable source. The article fully and clearly violates our guidelines on biographies of living people, which states that all such articles must have reliable sources baking up what is stated in the article. So if an article has no reliable sources in it, it must be deleted. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Does anybody here ever follow WP:BEFORE? This AfD has been around for two weeks and yet only I can find sources off Google? These delete votes above are obviously un-researched. This is no longer unsourced. Trackinfo ( talk) 07:00, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, clearly meets
WP:NACTOR, and the sources
Trackinfo added to the article plus those I mention above should be enough to prove this. —
Kusma (
t·
c) 10:34, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Not meeting WP:NACTOR, not finding significant independence coverage to determined huge following. May be WP:TOOSOON. CASSIOPEIA ( talk) 19:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. JPL's BLP concerns appear to have been addressed. A Train talk 12:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Oskar Keymer
- Oskar Keymer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:BLP of an actor, with no strong claim of notability per WP:NACTOR and no reliable source coverage to support it. His roles so far appear to be minor ones, not "major" roles for the purposes of clearing NACTOR, because none of the ones that have Wikipedia articles list him in their cast lists at all, and several of them don't even appear in his IMDb credits either, and the article doesn't cite any references at all. As always, every actor does not automatically get a Wikipedia article just because he has an IMDb profile -- he needs to be the subject of media coverage for an article to become earned, but there's no evidence that Oskar Keymer has been. And his article on de: doesn't cite any references either, so we can't just salvage this by copying anything over from there. The only reason I'm not also listing the German article for deletion is that I don't speak or write German in order to navigate the process. Bearcat ( talk) 18:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. L3X1 (distænt write) 22:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. L3X1 (distænt write) 22:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. L3X1 (distænt write) 22:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep
Delete Non notable child actor. L3X1 (distænt write) 22:44, 17 December 2017 (UTC)- Changed after reading below sources L3X1 Happy2018! (distænt write) 14:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Clearly notable as lead actor in de:Hilfe, ich hab meine Lehrerin geschrumpft, with other leading roles in de:Conni & Co and its sequel. — Kusma ( t· c) 11:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- Comment
Kusma, this is an unreferenced blp. Do you have multiple, independent sources to confirm notability? Thanks,
Boleyn (
talk) 19:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am aware that this is currently a completely unreferenced BLP (so I'm not voting "keep"), but he does meet WP:NACTOR per his films (which unfortunately don't have articles in English). Possible sources: [1] (mentioning his date of birth), [2], [3]. (Just from a Google News search for his name). — Kusma ( t· c) 21:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric 09:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
- Strong delete the only source listed in the article is IMDb, and IMDB is not a reliable source. The article fully and clearly violates our guidelines on biographies of living people, which states that all such articles must have reliable sources baking up what is stated in the article. So if an article has no reliable sources in it, it must be deleted. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Does anybody here ever follow WP:BEFORE? This AfD has been around for two weeks and yet only I can find sources off Google? These delete votes above are obviously un-researched. This is no longer unsourced. Trackinfo ( talk) 07:00, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, clearly meets
WP:NACTOR, and the sources
Trackinfo added to the article plus those I mention above should be enough to prove this. —
Kusma (
t·
c) 10:34, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Not meeting WP:NACTOR, not finding significant independence coverage to determined huge following. May be WP:TOOSOON. CASSIOPEIA ( talk) 19:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.