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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 17:38, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Omar al-Haddouchi
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Non-notable scholar. Very few mention in
WP:RS sources
John Jaffar Janardan (
talk) 05:11, 21 August 2016 (UTC) striking confirmed sockpuppet
Atlantic306 (
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- Keep I don't know how it could be claimed that the individual isn't notable; consistent, sustained coverage can be found in mainstream news websites on this individual for much of the 2010s, both on his statements, perceived extremism and previous legal problems. In literally only twenty seconds of searching, I've found multiple articles on this person from:
- I don't think it would be unreasonable of me to state that finding multiple articles (just in English) spanning three years of coverage on various issues doesn't even constitute this editor even trying to search hard; more substantial hunts for reliable sources would likely yield even more, especially if French and Spanish language sources are sought. This seems like an easy pass of WP:BIO. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 04:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
::Reply to MezzoMezzo You saw those sources from the page. Did you check inside those sources that you linked above. The name "Omar al-Haddouchi" is not mentioned in those pages.
John Jaffar Janardan (
talk) 04:37, 22 August 2016 (UTC) striking confirmed sockpuppet
Atlantic306 (
talk) 03:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, it is, although in different spellings: Umar/Omar (al-)Had(d)ouchi. That is something you'll see often when dealing with matters related to the Arabic world. There are various ways to
romanise the Arabic script, each leading to slightly different results, but in the end, they convey the same words. --
HyperGaruda (
talk) 20:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Reply to JJJ I didn't see those sources from the page; I told the truth when I said I ran a mere twenty-second search. Please clarify with other users before you start to accuse people of lying.
- As for a closer or anyone else, I think this is an open and shut case - the nominator appears unaware of the problems with the Romanization of Arabic names and the fact that searching for the article subject via different spellings (Umar, Hadouchi, Haddoushi, Hadoushi, Hadushi, Haddushi, etc.) would yield vastly different results. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 03:16, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, it is, although in different spellings: Umar/Omar (al-)Had(d)ouchi. That is something you'll see often when dealing with matters related to the Arabic world. There are various ways to
romanise the Arabic script, each leading to slightly different results, but in the end, they convey the same words. --
HyperGaruda (
talk) 20:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources identified by user Mezzo Mezzo so that WP:BASIC is passed Atlantic306 ( talk) 03:18, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per MezzoMezzo's sources. Also, the Arabic search term is "عمر الحدوشي"; it finds plenty of sources, such as news stories from respectable-looking Moroccan outlets Tangier Inter, le360, and Goud. FourViolas ( talk) 04:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 17:38, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Omar al-Haddouchi
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Non-notable scholar. Very few mention in
WP:RS sources
John Jaffar Janardan (
talk) 05:11, 21 August 2016 (UTC) striking confirmed sockpuppet
Atlantic306 (
talk) 03:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 13:49, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep I don't know how it could be claimed that the individual isn't notable; consistent, sustained coverage can be found in mainstream news websites on this individual for much of the 2010s, both on his statements, perceived extremism and previous legal problems. In literally only twenty seconds of searching, I've found multiple articles on this person from:
- I don't think it would be unreasonable of me to state that finding multiple articles (just in English) spanning three years of coverage on various issues doesn't even constitute this editor even trying to search hard; more substantial hunts for reliable sources would likely yield even more, especially if French and Spanish language sources are sought. This seems like an easy pass of WP:BIO. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 04:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
::Reply to MezzoMezzo You saw those sources from the page. Did you check inside those sources that you linked above. The name "Omar al-Haddouchi" is not mentioned in those pages.
John Jaffar Janardan (
talk) 04:37, 22 August 2016 (UTC) striking confirmed sockpuppet
Atlantic306 (
talk) 03:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, it is, although in different spellings: Umar/Omar (al-)Had(d)ouchi. That is something you'll see often when dealing with matters related to the Arabic world. There are various ways to
romanise the Arabic script, each leading to slightly different results, but in the end, they convey the same words. --
HyperGaruda (
talk) 20:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Reply to JJJ I didn't see those sources from the page; I told the truth when I said I ran a mere twenty-second search. Please clarify with other users before you start to accuse people of lying.
- As for a closer or anyone else, I think this is an open and shut case - the nominator appears unaware of the problems with the Romanization of Arabic names and the fact that searching for the article subject via different spellings (Umar, Hadouchi, Haddoushi, Hadoushi, Hadushi, Haddushi, etc.) would yield vastly different results. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 03:16, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, it is, although in different spellings: Umar/Omar (al-)Had(d)ouchi. That is something you'll see often when dealing with matters related to the Arabic world. There are various ways to
romanise the Arabic script, each leading to slightly different results, but in the end, they convey the same words. --
HyperGaruda (
talk) 20:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources identified by user Mezzo Mezzo so that WP:BASIC is passed Atlantic306 ( talk) 03:18, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per MezzoMezzo's sources. Also, the Arabic search term is "عمر الحدوشي"; it finds plenty of sources, such as news stories from respectable-looking Moroccan outlets Tangier Inter, le360, and Goud. FourViolas ( talk) 04:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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