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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 23:00, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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Non-notable boxer that fails NBOX and GNG. 2. O. Boxing 20:13, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep - Subject meet WP:BASIC and WP:NBOX. Kaizenify ( talk) 05:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Kaizenify What? He literally fails every criteria in both; never participated in a major (not even a minor) amateur or professional competition and never won any honours, let alone significant, so a complete fail of NBOX. Unless I’m missing something, there is no significant coverage of any depth (not even routine sports results), so a complete fail of GNG/BASIC. I’d like to see some sources to validate your vote please. – 2. O. Boxing 10:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete My search found no evidence that he meets any of the boxing notability criteria or has the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 03:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Notable boxer per [1] [2]. Ashishkafle ( talk) 07:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
Ashishkafle:, having a passing mention on a single page in two books is not significant coverage so does not satisfy
WP:GNG. –
2.
O.
Boxing
11:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- That last source says "But we cannot forget the disappointment to Nigeria caused by the retirement of Ola Enoch, former triple champion". I think we should establish what that championship was before deleting the article.
Spinning
Spark
11:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- It wouldn't hurt to know that, but there's no evidence he won (or even fought for) any titles that would show WP notability. Boxrec shows he had only 7 pro fights--all in England and all in a span of 5 months. Passing mentions do not show that he meets
WP:GNG.
Papaursa (
talk)
13:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- If the title was a notable one per NBOX ( listed here) it would be listed on boxrec. There’s a chance it could be an amateur title, but it’s hard to establish what title it was when the subject completely fails GNG. That failure to satisfy GNG makes whatever title he may have held irrelevant. – 2. O. Boxing 14:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- It wouldn't hurt to know that, but there's no evidence he won (or even fought for) any titles that would show WP notability. Boxrec shows he had only 7 pro fights--all in England and all in a span of 5 months. Passing mentions do not show that he meets
WP:GNG.
Papaursa (
talk)
13:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- That last source says "But we cannot forget the disappointment to Nigeria caused by the retirement of Ola Enoch, former triple champion". I think we should establish what that championship was before deleting the article.
Spinning
Spark
11:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
Ashishkafle:, having a passing mention on a single page in two books is not significant coverage so does not satisfy
WP:GNG. –
2.
O.
Boxing
11:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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Non-notable boxer that fails NBOX and GNG. 2. O. Boxing 20:13, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep - Subject meet WP:BASIC and WP:NBOX. Kaizenify ( talk) 05:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Kaizenify What? He literally fails every criteria in both; never participated in a major (not even a minor) amateur or professional competition and never won any honours, let alone significant, so a complete fail of NBOX. Unless I’m missing something, there is no significant coverage of any depth (not even routine sports results), so a complete fail of GNG/BASIC. I’d like to see some sources to validate your vote please. – 2. O. Boxing 10:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete My search found no evidence that he meets any of the boxing notability criteria or has the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 03:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Notable boxer per [1] [2]. Ashishkafle ( talk) 07:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
Ashishkafle:, having a passing mention on a single page in two books is not significant coverage so does not satisfy
WP:GNG. –
2.
O.
Boxing
11:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- That last source says "But we cannot forget the disappointment to Nigeria caused by the retirement of Ola Enoch, former triple champion". I think we should establish what that championship was before deleting the article.
Spinning
Spark
11:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- It wouldn't hurt to know that, but there's no evidence he won (or even fought for) any titles that would show WP notability. Boxrec shows he had only 7 pro fights--all in England and all in a span of 5 months. Passing mentions do not show that he meets
WP:GNG.
Papaursa (
talk)
13:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- If the title was a notable one per NBOX ( listed here) it would be listed on boxrec. There’s a chance it could be an amateur title, but it’s hard to establish what title it was when the subject completely fails GNG. That failure to satisfy GNG makes whatever title he may have held irrelevant. – 2. O. Boxing 14:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- It wouldn't hurt to know that, but there's no evidence he won (or even fought for) any titles that would show WP notability. Boxrec shows he had only 7 pro fights--all in England and all in a span of 5 months. Passing mentions do not show that he meets
WP:GNG.
Papaursa (
talk)
13:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- That last source says "But we cannot forget the disappointment to Nigeria caused by the retirement of Ola Enoch, former triple champion". I think we should establish what that championship was before deleting the article.
Spinning
Spark
11:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
Ashishkafle:, having a passing mention on a single page in two books is not significant coverage so does not satisfy
WP:GNG. –
2.
O.
Boxing
11:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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