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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:14, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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No indication of notability except as the birth place of a terrorist. Delete or redirect to Joseph Kony. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Uganda-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 13:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh ( talk) 13:45, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Comment isn't this a settlement though? I generally argue to keep most villages, but I have to agree that this one doesn't seem notable. Nothing in Google Books,and all hits on scholar are for authors. Kony of course is himself notable but that doesn't transfer just because he was born there. Maybe if he had operated from there at some point in time. If the settlement rule does not apply here, this vote can be counted as delete.
Elinruby (
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23:57, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Quite literally the only content in the article, and, indeed, the only content I can find elsewhere, is in connection to Kony. No population figures, no rough history, nothing. Unhelpful to the reader: Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and Notability is not inhereted. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 10:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - I've done some poking around, and from what I can tell Odek is at 2°40′48″N 32°43′41″E / 2.680°N 32.728°E (don't ask me why Google Maps calls it "Omor", the school and medical center are both "Odek"). I came across a few news articles that mention Odek or "Odek Subcounty" within the Omoro District ( [1] [2] [3]). This source mentions a former LRA camp at Odek, and this map from OCHA has Odek as a village within Odek Subcounty. At the very least we could merge into a new article for Odek Subcounty. AviationFreak 💬 16:04, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. It is listed as a Sub County/Town Council at [4], so it appears to be a verifiable village/lowest level political subdivision. Sourcing is very thin though. Our coverage of Ugandan local government is lacking, many of the pages use old maps that don't include Oromo District which was split from Gulu in 2016. We definitely keep U.S. and European settlements of similar size and self-government, but they also almost always have more useable sources. Eluchil404 ( talk) 08:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:38, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: I'm usually not a fan of WP:NEXIST, but in this case, I think it's fair to say that there are probably plenty of offline sources on this. It's true that sources on similarly-sized towns in Europe and the US are often more accessible, but we shouldn't delete based on that. If anything, it indicates that comparable sources exist for this village, just outside of our reach. Actualcpscm ( talk) 19:34, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:POPULATED and AviationFreak's research. — siro χ o 23:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as AviationFreak has fulfilled the Heymann Standard. I have placed a Sources Exist template in light of Actualcpscm's comment. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 03:47, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:14, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Odek ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
No indication of notability except as the birth place of a terrorist. Delete or redirect to Joseph Kony. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Uganda-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 13:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh ( talk) 13:45, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Comment isn't this a settlement though? I generally argue to keep most villages, but I have to agree that this one doesn't seem notable. Nothing in Google Books,and all hits on scholar are for authors. Kony of course is himself notable but that doesn't transfer just because he was born there. Maybe if he had operated from there at some point in time. If the settlement rule does not apply here, this vote can be counted as delete.
Elinruby (
talk)
23:57, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Quite literally the only content in the article, and, indeed, the only content I can find elsewhere, is in connection to Kony. No population figures, no rough history, nothing. Unhelpful to the reader: Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and Notability is not inhereted. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 10:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - I've done some poking around, and from what I can tell Odek is at 2°40′48″N 32°43′41″E / 2.680°N 32.728°E (don't ask me why Google Maps calls it "Omor", the school and medical center are both "Odek"). I came across a few news articles that mention Odek or "Odek Subcounty" within the Omoro District ( [1] [2] [3]). This source mentions a former LRA camp at Odek, and this map from OCHA has Odek as a village within Odek Subcounty. At the very least we could merge into a new article for Odek Subcounty. AviationFreak 💬 16:04, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. It is listed as a Sub County/Town Council at [4], so it appears to be a verifiable village/lowest level political subdivision. Sourcing is very thin though. Our coverage of Ugandan local government is lacking, many of the pages use old maps that don't include Oromo District which was split from Gulu in 2016. We definitely keep U.S. and European settlements of similar size and self-government, but they also almost always have more useable sources. Eluchil404 ( talk) 08:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:38, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: I'm usually not a fan of WP:NEXIST, but in this case, I think it's fair to say that there are probably plenty of offline sources on this. It's true that sources on similarly-sized towns in Europe and the US are often more accessible, but we shouldn't delete based on that. If anything, it indicates that comparable sources exist for this village, just outside of our reach. Actualcpscm ( talk) 19:34, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:POPULATED and AviationFreak's research. — siro χ o 23:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as AviationFreak has fulfilled the Heymann Standard. I have placed a Sources Exist template in light of Actualcpscm's comment. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 03:47, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.