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The result was delete as an unrecognized locality. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:25, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
North Glen Ellyn, Illinois
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This article spuriously states that an unincoporated area is a new incoporporated place. The page creator has even created a new image highlighting the unincorporated area. Article lacks references except for a listing in the GNIS, which doesn't alone make this section of DuPage, Countty, IL, notable. Fitnr 18:00, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 21:01, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep as a legally recognized place per WP:GEOLAND. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 02:14, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as failing
WP:GNG unless someone can show some evidence. No evidence of this place being mentioned as a proper name in third-party coverage, let alone being news or covered itself. Also, the claim of incorporation as a village appears to be plain false; I don't think it's even a
CDP. To wit:
- In a quick Google search I can't find any WP:RS for this place even cited as a location in news, let alone coverage about the place itself. It could be that the name hasn't been used for decades, and we just don't have old printed coverage online, but I've found no evidence. I can't find any news articles on Google about "North Glen Ellyn".
- The evidence indicates that this is not incorprated:
- The Illinois Secretary of State is the official source of incorporated municipalities in Illinois and on that website there is no "North Glen Ellyn" in the Name Index to Illinois Local Governments: I searched for "North Glen Ellyn" and I also looked at the whole list of municipalities in DuPage County, Illinois.
- The DuPage County Parcel Viewer map, when the "Municipality" layer is checked, clearly labels the area between Glen Ellyn and Glendale Heights as "Uninc" with no municipality color.
- GNIS ID
42964(typoed) 421964 "North Glen Ellyn" shows the Census code as 53754 and the Census class code U6, meaning "Populated (Community) Place (except those associated with facilities). A populated place that is not a census designated or incorporated place having an official federally recognized name." Contrast this with Glen Ellyn, Illinois, which like most incorporated municipalities, has two GNIS entries: GNIS ID 421819, which has census class code P1, meaning "Populated Place that is also an incorporated place with the same name and the same Census Code"; and "Village of Glen Ellyn", GNIS ID 2398972, census class code C1, meaning "Incorporated Places. An active incorporated place that does not serve as a county subdivision equivalent." -- Closeapple ( talk) 16:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @ Bnnnperdue:: What did you use to decide that "North Glen Ellyn" is incorporated as a village, or has a known amount of population? You seem to have done this with other places too. -- Closeapple ( talk) 16:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable place and possible hoax. It's not even listed as a CDP. [1] says so. This is in no way accurate and may be a deliberate hoax. Smartyllama ( talk) 18:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep since this place was supposedly just incorporated 5 months ago and USGS.gov seems to think it has a valid census code, let's hold off on deleting this.--
TonyTheTiger (
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- Incorporated without DuPage County having it on their GIS maps for jurisdiction and taxes, and without the Illinois Secretary of State having it published as incorporated, and with no online news coverage of there having been an incorporation referendum? Also, this article was created by Bnnnperdue ( talk · contribs), who also modified and renamed Clearing, Chicago to claim that it had ceded from the City of Chicago, which is just about impossible; and also see Bnnnperdue's article Danada, Illinois being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danada, Illinois. -- Closeapple ( talk) 16:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 ( talk) 08:13, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 ( talk) 08:13, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete This is not a municipality. I mean kudos for the fake history, but this article is a complete hoax.
- Delete as a hoax per the research of Closeapple, who basically proved a negative. It is rather incumbent on the article creator or others wanting to keep the article to verify the statements in the article with reliable sources. Edison ( talk) 17:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Hoax article built on top of a real populated place. It follows a pattern of articles by the same creator. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belmont, Illinois, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mammoth Springs, Illinois and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bertha, Florida. • Gene93k ( talk) 20:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep the article but remove all the unverifiable stuff. It's clear that this is a real place, it's clear that some - but not all - of the content is bogus, just remove that. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as I actually considered keeping but there's still factual accuracy questionability with nothing suggesting better because of it. SwisterTwister talk 07:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing to save here; North Glen Ellyn isn't a village, and the map is probably copied from some other place. If we want to have an article about the unincorporated community, we might as well start one from scratch. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 12:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete The Village of Glen Ellyn seems to think the supposed area this community exists in is still part of their village. See a map from their website showing much of the area in question to be unincorporated. Sorry, hoax. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 15:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete as an unrecognized locality. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:25, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
North Glen Ellyn, Illinois
- North Glen Ellyn, Illinois ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
This article spuriously states that an unincoporated area is a new incoporporated place. The page creator has even created a new image highlighting the unincorporated area. Article lacks references except for a listing in the GNIS, which doesn't alone make this section of DuPage, Countty, IL, notable. Fitnr 18:00, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 21:01, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep as a legally recognized place per WP:GEOLAND. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 02:14, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as failing
WP:GNG unless someone can show some evidence. No evidence of this place being mentioned as a proper name in third-party coverage, let alone being news or covered itself. Also, the claim of incorporation as a village appears to be plain false; I don't think it's even a
CDP. To wit:
- In a quick Google search I can't find any WP:RS for this place even cited as a location in news, let alone coverage about the place itself. It could be that the name hasn't been used for decades, and we just don't have old printed coverage online, but I've found no evidence. I can't find any news articles on Google about "North Glen Ellyn".
- The evidence indicates that this is not incorprated:
- The Illinois Secretary of State is the official source of incorporated municipalities in Illinois and on that website there is no "North Glen Ellyn" in the Name Index to Illinois Local Governments: I searched for "North Glen Ellyn" and I also looked at the whole list of municipalities in DuPage County, Illinois.
- The DuPage County Parcel Viewer map, when the "Municipality" layer is checked, clearly labels the area between Glen Ellyn and Glendale Heights as "Uninc" with no municipality color.
- GNIS ID
42964(typoed) 421964 "North Glen Ellyn" shows the Census code as 53754 and the Census class code U6, meaning "Populated (Community) Place (except those associated with facilities). A populated place that is not a census designated or incorporated place having an official federally recognized name." Contrast this with Glen Ellyn, Illinois, which like most incorporated municipalities, has two GNIS entries: GNIS ID 421819, which has census class code P1, meaning "Populated Place that is also an incorporated place with the same name and the same Census Code"; and "Village of Glen Ellyn", GNIS ID 2398972, census class code C1, meaning "Incorporated Places. An active incorporated place that does not serve as a county subdivision equivalent." -- Closeapple ( talk) 16:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @ Bnnnperdue:: What did you use to decide that "North Glen Ellyn" is incorporated as a village, or has a known amount of population? You seem to have done this with other places too. -- Closeapple ( talk) 16:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable place and possible hoax. It's not even listed as a CDP. [1] says so. This is in no way accurate and may be a deliberate hoax. Smartyllama ( talk) 18:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep since this place was supposedly just incorporated 5 months ago and USGS.gov seems to think it has a valid census code, let's hold off on deleting this.--
TonyTheTiger (
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WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 12:55, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Incorporated without DuPage County having it on their GIS maps for jurisdiction and taxes, and without the Illinois Secretary of State having it published as incorporated, and with no online news coverage of there having been an incorporation referendum? Also, this article was created by Bnnnperdue ( talk · contribs), who also modified and renamed Clearing, Chicago to claim that it had ceded from the City of Chicago, which is just about impossible; and also see Bnnnperdue's article Danada, Illinois being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danada, Illinois. -- Closeapple ( talk) 16:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 ( talk) 08:13, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 ( talk) 08:13, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete This is not a municipality. I mean kudos for the fake history, but this article is a complete hoax.
- Delete as a hoax per the research of Closeapple, who basically proved a negative. It is rather incumbent on the article creator or others wanting to keep the article to verify the statements in the article with reliable sources. Edison ( talk) 17:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Hoax article built on top of a real populated place. It follows a pattern of articles by the same creator. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belmont, Illinois, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mammoth Springs, Illinois and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bertha, Florida. • Gene93k ( talk) 20:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep the article but remove all the unverifiable stuff. It's clear that this is a real place, it's clear that some - but not all - of the content is bogus, just remove that. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as I actually considered keeping but there's still factual accuracy questionability with nothing suggesting better because of it. SwisterTwister talk 07:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing to save here; North Glen Ellyn isn't a village, and the map is probably copied from some other place. If we want to have an article about the unincorporated community, we might as well start one from scratch. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 12:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete The Village of Glen Ellyn seems to think the supposed area this community exists in is still part of their village. See a map from their website showing much of the area in question to be unincorporated. Sorry, hoax. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 15:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.