The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The articles, as it stands, fails
WP:NFILM rather alarmingly. It has not "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," it's completely, and it has no notable reviews on
Rotten Tomatoes or
Metacritic. I'd say it would take a
Heymann Standard-level clean up at this point. Corvoe(speak to me) 01:48, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep The cast has many notables. Newsbank shows many good sources, like this one from The Record (Bergen County): "What, you may ask, is Tony Danza doing? The answer is 'Noah,' a Disney television movie in which a shady building contractor of today finds himself in the same position as the biblical Noah with an angel sent by God telling him to start building an ark because a flood is on the way..." Here is a review in
the Video Source Book and one here in
VideoHound. Probably more offline sources, judging from the premiere date. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 14:04, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. Nothing intended about the current nominator, but I'm not liking seeing a lot of AFDs about pretty clearly notable topics, started with apparent intention of calling on AFD participants to develop random articles chosen. AFD is not for cleanup. Tag an article for development if you like. --
doncram 14:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
I understand you said it wasn't intended for me specifically, but it did not seem to be a notable topic to me in the slightest. A notable cast is not usually considered to be enough to warrant an article. For instance, Goose on the Loose, a 2006 film starring
Chevy Chase,
Kari Matchett,
James Purefoy,
Joan Plowright,
Max Morrow,
Tom Arnold, and
William B. Davis, does not and probably never will have an article, considering an incredibly small amount of information on the film. Or the TV film The Cloning of Joanna May, which featured
Patricia Hodge,
Brian Cox,
Peter Capaldi, Purefoy,
Billie Whitelaw, and
Oliver Ford Davies. Similar case to Goose on the Loose, in my mind. In the case of Noah, I felt this was similar. Very few outside sources of any note link to it, so it felt worthy to AfD. I'm starting to think perhaps I misjudged, but I nominated this article for deletion because I truly believed it should be deleted. Apologies if I come off too defensive, I'm not meaning to. Corvoe(speak to me) 17:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. There are hundreds of film stubs with less content than this one. Nothing a little TLC couldn't fix...
Fortdj33 (
talk) 17:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete. I agree that it fails to meet notability. Regardless of whether other articles are like this or have less information, it still isn't notable enough, in my opinion.
Rilech (
talk) 18:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Weak Delete I feel the article could be saved, but only if a few sources are found for it.
G S Palmer (
talk) 00:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep & Improve/Source - Usually I vow to delete any unsourced articles but I feel someone in the film area can expand/improve it alot so I'm saying keep for now. -
→Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 02:44, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Weak keep I added another secondary source. Seems kinda borderline, but I bet there are other secondary sources out there, so I'd say it's notable enough to warrant inclusion.
Orser67 (
talk) 22:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep two sources (currently) so may meet
WP:GNG, although second one is minor mention. Widefox;
talk 08:01, 7 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. Just because our article isn't very good isn't a good enough reason to get rid of it. I've looked over
WP:DEL-REASON and can see no good reason for removing this page. -
SchroCat (
talk) 10:05, 9 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep What the hell is wrong with you? Obviously notable.
JOJHutton 23:33, 10 April 2014 (UTC)reply
What did I do to deserve that abrasiveness? I stated my rationale and provided explanations for it. You have no reason to be rude to me. Corvoe(speak to me) 00:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The articles, as it stands, fails
WP:NFILM rather alarmingly. It has not "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," it's completely, and it has no notable reviews on
Rotten Tomatoes or
Metacritic. I'd say it would take a
Heymann Standard-level clean up at this point. Corvoe(speak to me) 01:48, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep The cast has many notables. Newsbank shows many good sources, like this one from The Record (Bergen County): "What, you may ask, is Tony Danza doing? The answer is 'Noah,' a Disney television movie in which a shady building contractor of today finds himself in the same position as the biblical Noah with an angel sent by God telling him to start building an ark because a flood is on the way..." Here is a review in
the Video Source Book and one here in
VideoHound. Probably more offline sources, judging from the premiere date. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 14:04, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. Nothing intended about the current nominator, but I'm not liking seeing a lot of AFDs about pretty clearly notable topics, started with apparent intention of calling on AFD participants to develop random articles chosen. AFD is not for cleanup. Tag an article for development if you like. --
doncram 14:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
I understand you said it wasn't intended for me specifically, but it did not seem to be a notable topic to me in the slightest. A notable cast is not usually considered to be enough to warrant an article. For instance, Goose on the Loose, a 2006 film starring
Chevy Chase,
Kari Matchett,
James Purefoy,
Joan Plowright,
Max Morrow,
Tom Arnold, and
William B. Davis, does not and probably never will have an article, considering an incredibly small amount of information on the film. Or the TV film The Cloning of Joanna May, which featured
Patricia Hodge,
Brian Cox,
Peter Capaldi, Purefoy,
Billie Whitelaw, and
Oliver Ford Davies. Similar case to Goose on the Loose, in my mind. In the case of Noah, I felt this was similar. Very few outside sources of any note link to it, so it felt worthy to AfD. I'm starting to think perhaps I misjudged, but I nominated this article for deletion because I truly believed it should be deleted. Apologies if I come off too defensive, I'm not meaning to. Corvoe(speak to me) 17:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. There are hundreds of film stubs with less content than this one. Nothing a little TLC couldn't fix...
Fortdj33 (
talk) 17:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete. I agree that it fails to meet notability. Regardless of whether other articles are like this or have less information, it still isn't notable enough, in my opinion.
Rilech (
talk) 18:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Weak Delete I feel the article could be saved, but only if a few sources are found for it.
G S Palmer (
talk) 00:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep & Improve/Source - Usually I vow to delete any unsourced articles but I feel someone in the film area can expand/improve it alot so I'm saying keep for now. -
→Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 02:44, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Weak keep I added another secondary source. Seems kinda borderline, but I bet there are other secondary sources out there, so I'd say it's notable enough to warrant inclusion.
Orser67 (
talk) 22:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep two sources (currently) so may meet
WP:GNG, although second one is minor mention. Widefox;
talk 08:01, 7 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. Just because our article isn't very good isn't a good enough reason to get rid of it. I've looked over
WP:DEL-REASON and can see no good reason for removing this page. -
SchroCat (
talk) 10:05, 9 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep What the hell is wrong with you? Obviously notable.
JOJHutton 23:33, 10 April 2014 (UTC)reply
What did I do to deserve that abrasiveness? I stated my rationale and provided explanations for it. You have no reason to be rude to me. Corvoe(speak to me) 00:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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