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The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 18:55, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

No Dessert, Dad, till You Mow the Lawn

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NFO and WP:NFSOURCES; I found no reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I did a WP:BEFORE and nothing suitable or reliable was found to pass WP:NEXIST. The Film Creator ( talk) 03:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Cullum, Paul (1994). "No Dessert Dad, 'Til You Mow the Lawn". In Levich, Jacob (ed.). The Motion Picture Guide: 1995 Annual (The Films of 1994). New York: CineBooks. p. 257. ISBN  0-933997-00-0. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The review notes: "No Dessert Dad adheres strictly to the point of view built into the title that of kids goofing on short-sighted oblivious parents but the meandering narrative creates the feeling of something made up as it goes along, much as a four-year-old might tell a story. This, coupled with largely infantile humor, leaves the queasy but vivid impression that this is a film written not only for kids, but quite possibly by kids. None of this will is likely dissuade the post-linear, computer-driven, cybergarten audience, but it promises to be slow going for anyone over the age of 10."

    2. "Papa, Előbb Dolgozz Meg A Sütiért!" [Papa, Work for the Cookie First!]. Video Magazin [ hu (in Hungarian). June 1996. p. 32. ISSN  0237-5141. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The magazine notes: "Howard McCain filmjében, melynek eredeti címét - No Dessert Dad Ti You Mow the Lawn-fordíthatjuk így is: Papa, nuku süti, amíg le nem nyírtad a füvet, minden együtt van, ami egy kellemes videós estéhez kell egy famíliának: átlagos amerikai család három rossz gyerkőc- cel, szeretetre méltó apával- anyával, akik normálisnak is jók, de azért a gyerekek kihasználják a kínálkozó alkalmat, hogy egy kicsit átformálják őket, lesz, ami lesz. Már az alapkonfliktus is igazi amerikai találmány: apu-anyu le akar szokni a cigizésről, és ez, ugye, egy komikus filmben a szereplőknek egyedül nem megy. Igy hát Carol és Ken (Joanna Kerns és Robert Hayes) önszuggesztióra épülő magnó- szalagokat vásárol, hátha az majd segít. És a történetnek ezen a pontján alkalmazható az ősi fogás: ahelyett, hogy a szülők leszoknának a dohány- zásról, a gyerekek kaparintják kezükbe a hatalmat, és a hipnó- zis erejével kezdenek el uralkod- ni szüleiken, sőt, egy idő után egymásra is kiterjesztik a kazet- ták áldásos(?) hatását. Tökéle- tes képlet egy vígjátékhoz."

      From Google Translate: "In Howard McCain's film, whose original title is No Dessert Dad Ti You Mow the Lawn, we can also translate it as follows: Papa, nuku cookies, until you mow the lawn, everything a family needs for a pleasant video night is together: an average American family of three with bad children, with lovable fathers and mothers, who are also good for normal, but the children take advantage of the opportunity to reshape them a little, what will happen will happen. Even the basic conflict is a true American invention: mom and dad want to quit smoking, and that, right, is not the case for the actors alone in a comedy film. So Carol and Ken (Joanna Kerns and Robert Hayes) buy autosuggestion tapes to see if that helps. And at this point in the story, the ancient technique can be applied: instead of the parents giving up smoking, the children grab the power and start ruling over their parents with the power of hypnosis, and after a while, they even extend it to each other. the beneficial(?) effect of cassettes. A perfect formula for a comedy."

    3. "No Dessert Dad, Till You Mow the Lawn". Radio Times. 2000. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The review notes: "This rare foray by producer Roger Corman into PG territory is a surprisingly reprehensible family film. When a brother/sister duo accidentally discover they can manipulate the self-hypnosis tapes of their parents (Robert Hays and Joanna Kerns), they use this knowledge to get everything they want. The movie is never able to justify this pseudo-rape of the mind, even when the siblings' tape manipulation becomes unselfish (at least as far as they're concerned). Though the premise may not bother children, they might share their parents' discomfort, not just at the film's cold tone, but also its attempts to find humour in cat faeces and cracks about incest."

    4. Elder, Bruce (2002-01-28). "Movies - Thursday January 31". The Sydney Morning Herald. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

      The review notes: "Cute fantasy about a bunch of kids who find that they can hypnotise their parents. The conceit is obvious. The kids then can do unto their parents what all parents historically have done unto their kids, like refusing a treat before an onerous task is completed. Hence the title. Justin Cochran is sick of being ignored by his parents, who are just too busy to spend time with the kids. So he implants messages in their self-hypnosis "Stop Smoking" tapes and finds that he has true power. Of course, the parents will eventually wise up to the scam. Mildly amusing."

    5. Less significant coverage:
      1. Connors, Martin; Craddock, Jim, eds. (1998) [1991]. Videohound's Golden Movie Retriever. Detroit: Visible Ink Press. p. 610. ISBN  1-57859-024-8. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The book notes: "Suburban parents Ken and Carol Cochran (Robert Hays and Joanna Kerns) are harassed at home by their annoying offspring, Justin, Monica, and Tyler. When they try hypnosis tapes to quit smoking, the kids discover by doctoring the tapes, they can plant suggestions resulting in parental perks."

      2. Flowers, John; Frizler, Paul (2004). Psychotherapists on Film, 1899-1999: A Worldwide Guide to Over 5000 Films. Vol. 2. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 432. ISBN  0-7864-1908-3. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The book notes: "Ken and Carol Cochran go to a hypnotist for help to stop smoking. They get tapes to use at home, along with gongs, candles, and other new age cures, and proceed with their homework. The children, Justin, Tyler, and Monica begin to intervene while the parents are suggestible and ask for and start getting everything they want. Ken and Carol are taught a lesson and become better parents, and the kids become better too."

      3. Martin, Mick; Porter, Marsha (2002). Video & DVD Guide 2003. New York: Ballantine Books. p. 789. ISBN  0-345-44991-6. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The book gives the film three stars. The book notes: "When parents Robert Hays and Joanna Kerns attempt to kick the smoking habit by way of self-hypnosis tapes their neglected kids alter the tapes, giving their parents a more youthful outlook on life. Watching their transformation from strung-out chain-smokers to vibrant, healthy parents is both funny and poignant."

      4. "No Dessert Dad, 'Till You Mow the Lawn". Video Magazin [ hu (in Hungarian). June 1996. p. 62. ISSN  0237-5141. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The review notes: "A gyerekek ráveszik szüleiket, hogy hagyják abba a dohányzást. Módszerül a szülők önhipnotizá- ló kazettát hallgatnak. A gyerekek rájönnek, hogy a szalag szug- gesztiv erejét felhasználhatják ar- ra, hogy az ő vágyaik kerüljenek előtérbe. Hamarosan minden a feje tetejére áll. Egészen addig, amíg ki nem derül a csintalanság. De minden jóra fordul, sőt még jobbra."

        From Google Translate: "Children persuade their parents to quit smoking. As a method, parents listen to a self-hypnosis tape. The children realize that they can use the suggestive power of the tape to make their desires come to the fore. Soon everything will turn upside down. Until the foul play is revealed. But everything is getting better, even better."

      5. "TV Plus". Sunday Mail. 2002-01-27. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

        The article notes: "Comedy about a pair of rambunctious kids who turn their parents' lives inside out when they discover the power of hypnotism. Stars Robert Hays, Joanna Kerns and Joshua Schaefer."

      6. James, Stan (2002-01-31). "TV Movies". The Advertiser. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

        The review notes: "A certain winner in a strange title competition, this fantasy comedy has parents Joanna Kerns and Robert Hays trying to quit smoking using self-hypnosis tapes. Angered by their parent's lack of attention toward them, their kids switch the tapes and find they can manipulate the situation. This harmless fare has its moments, some of them funny."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow No Dessert, Dad, till You Mow the Lawn to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard ( talk) 09:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 18:55, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

No Dessert, Dad, till You Mow the Lawn

No Dessert, Dad, till You Mow the Lawn (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:GNG, WP:NFO and WP:NFSOURCES; I found no reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I did a WP:BEFORE and nothing suitable or reliable was found to pass WP:NEXIST. The Film Creator ( talk) 03:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Cullum, Paul (1994). "No Dessert Dad, 'Til You Mow the Lawn". In Levich, Jacob (ed.). The Motion Picture Guide: 1995 Annual (The Films of 1994). New York: CineBooks. p. 257. ISBN  0-933997-00-0. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The review notes: "No Dessert Dad adheres strictly to the point of view built into the title that of kids goofing on short-sighted oblivious parents but the meandering narrative creates the feeling of something made up as it goes along, much as a four-year-old might tell a story. This, coupled with largely infantile humor, leaves the queasy but vivid impression that this is a film written not only for kids, but quite possibly by kids. None of this will is likely dissuade the post-linear, computer-driven, cybergarten audience, but it promises to be slow going for anyone over the age of 10."

    2. "Papa, Előbb Dolgozz Meg A Sütiért!" [Papa, Work for the Cookie First!]. Video Magazin [ hu (in Hungarian). June 1996. p. 32. ISSN  0237-5141. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The magazine notes: "Howard McCain filmjében, melynek eredeti címét - No Dessert Dad Ti You Mow the Lawn-fordíthatjuk így is: Papa, nuku süti, amíg le nem nyírtad a füvet, minden együtt van, ami egy kellemes videós estéhez kell egy famíliának: átlagos amerikai család három rossz gyerkőc- cel, szeretetre méltó apával- anyával, akik normálisnak is jók, de azért a gyerekek kihasználják a kínálkozó alkalmat, hogy egy kicsit átformálják őket, lesz, ami lesz. Már az alapkonfliktus is igazi amerikai találmány: apu-anyu le akar szokni a cigizésről, és ez, ugye, egy komikus filmben a szereplőknek egyedül nem megy. Igy hát Carol és Ken (Joanna Kerns és Robert Hayes) önszuggesztióra épülő magnó- szalagokat vásárol, hátha az majd segít. És a történetnek ezen a pontján alkalmazható az ősi fogás: ahelyett, hogy a szülők leszoknának a dohány- zásról, a gyerekek kaparintják kezükbe a hatalmat, és a hipnó- zis erejével kezdenek el uralkod- ni szüleiken, sőt, egy idő után egymásra is kiterjesztik a kazet- ták áldásos(?) hatását. Tökéle- tes képlet egy vígjátékhoz."

      From Google Translate: "In Howard McCain's film, whose original title is No Dessert Dad Ti You Mow the Lawn, we can also translate it as follows: Papa, nuku cookies, until you mow the lawn, everything a family needs for a pleasant video night is together: an average American family of three with bad children, with lovable fathers and mothers, who are also good for normal, but the children take advantage of the opportunity to reshape them a little, what will happen will happen. Even the basic conflict is a true American invention: mom and dad want to quit smoking, and that, right, is not the case for the actors alone in a comedy film. So Carol and Ken (Joanna Kerns and Robert Hayes) buy autosuggestion tapes to see if that helps. And at this point in the story, the ancient technique can be applied: instead of the parents giving up smoking, the children grab the power and start ruling over their parents with the power of hypnosis, and after a while, they even extend it to each other. the beneficial(?) effect of cassettes. A perfect formula for a comedy."

    3. "No Dessert Dad, Till You Mow the Lawn". Radio Times. 2000. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The review notes: "This rare foray by producer Roger Corman into PG territory is a surprisingly reprehensible family film. When a brother/sister duo accidentally discover they can manipulate the self-hypnosis tapes of their parents (Robert Hays and Joanna Kerns), they use this knowledge to get everything they want. The movie is never able to justify this pseudo-rape of the mind, even when the siblings' tape manipulation becomes unselfish (at least as far as they're concerned). Though the premise may not bother children, they might share their parents' discomfort, not just at the film's cold tone, but also its attempts to find humour in cat faeces and cracks about incest."

    4. Elder, Bruce (2002-01-28). "Movies - Thursday January 31". The Sydney Morning Herald. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

      The review notes: "Cute fantasy about a bunch of kids who find that they can hypnotise their parents. The conceit is obvious. The kids then can do unto their parents what all parents historically have done unto their kids, like refusing a treat before an onerous task is completed. Hence the title. Justin Cochran is sick of being ignored by his parents, who are just too busy to spend time with the kids. So he implants messages in their self-hypnosis "Stop Smoking" tapes and finds that he has true power. Of course, the parents will eventually wise up to the scam. Mildly amusing."

    5. Less significant coverage:
      1. Connors, Martin; Craddock, Jim, eds. (1998) [1991]. Videohound's Golden Movie Retriever. Detroit: Visible Ink Press. p. 610. ISBN  1-57859-024-8. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The book notes: "Suburban parents Ken and Carol Cochran (Robert Hays and Joanna Kerns) are harassed at home by their annoying offspring, Justin, Monica, and Tyler. When they try hypnosis tapes to quit smoking, the kids discover by doctoring the tapes, they can plant suggestions resulting in parental perks."

      2. Flowers, John; Frizler, Paul (2004). Psychotherapists on Film, 1899-1999: A Worldwide Guide to Over 5000 Films. Vol. 2. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 432. ISBN  0-7864-1908-3. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The book notes: "Ken and Carol Cochran go to a hypnotist for help to stop smoking. They get tapes to use at home, along with gongs, candles, and other new age cures, and proceed with their homework. The children, Justin, Tyler, and Monica begin to intervene while the parents are suggestible and ask for and start getting everything they want. Ken and Carol are taught a lesson and become better parents, and the kids become better too."

      3. Martin, Mick; Porter, Marsha (2002). Video & DVD Guide 2003. New York: Ballantine Books. p. 789. ISBN  0-345-44991-6. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The book gives the film three stars. The book notes: "When parents Robert Hays and Joanna Kerns attempt to kick the smoking habit by way of self-hypnosis tapes their neglected kids alter the tapes, giving their parents a more youthful outlook on life. Watching their transformation from strung-out chain-smokers to vibrant, healthy parents is both funny and poignant."

      4. "No Dessert Dad, 'Till You Mow the Lawn". Video Magazin [ hu (in Hungarian). June 1996. p. 62. ISSN  0237-5141. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

        The review notes: "A gyerekek ráveszik szüleiket, hogy hagyják abba a dohányzást. Módszerül a szülők önhipnotizá- ló kazettát hallgatnak. A gyerekek rájönnek, hogy a szalag szug- gesztiv erejét felhasználhatják ar- ra, hogy az ő vágyaik kerüljenek előtérbe. Hamarosan minden a feje tetejére áll. Egészen addig, amíg ki nem derül a csintalanság. De minden jóra fordul, sőt még jobbra."

        From Google Translate: "Children persuade their parents to quit smoking. As a method, parents listen to a self-hypnosis tape. The children realize that they can use the suggestive power of the tape to make their desires come to the fore. Soon everything will turn upside down. Until the foul play is revealed. But everything is getting better, even better."

      5. "TV Plus". Sunday Mail. 2002-01-27. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

        The article notes: "Comedy about a pair of rambunctious kids who turn their parents' lives inside out when they discover the power of hypnotism. Stars Robert Hays, Joanna Kerns and Joshua Schaefer."

      6. James, Stan (2002-01-31). "TV Movies". The Advertiser. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

        The review notes: "A certain winner in a strange title competition, this fantasy comedy has parents Joanna Kerns and Robert Hays trying to quit smoking using self-hypnosis tapes. Angered by their parent's lack of attention toward them, their kids switch the tapes and find they can manipulate the situation. This harmless fare has its moments, some of them funny."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow No Dessert, Dad, till You Mow the Lawn to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard ( talk) 09:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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