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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Nike CTR360 Maestri
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1) Per WP:NOTADVERT this at the very least needs WP:TNT 2) Fails WP:GNG. After removing unreliable sources what was left were sources from SoccerBible.com and Nike. SoccerBible I'm not actually certain about the reliability of and Nike is obviously not independent of the subject. Most of the SoccerBible references only mention the project in passing in relation to some other subject or are mere product release announcements. The couple that do mention it more than in passing or are product announcements don't constitute in depth or broad coverage given that it's only one source. A google search does not uncover any additional WP:RS. TarnishedPath talk 07:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Products, Sports, and Football. TarnishedPath talk 07:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to a new article on Nike football boots or similar, which would be a notable general topic. Giant Snowman 10:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Once again, we redirect to articles, not other redirects.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)- It was an article - redirected - now restored. Giant Snowman 07:50, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I don't think it is impossible to have an article about a product line. For instance, a car model may clearly be notable for a page, but what makes it notable is significant coverage, independent of the subject in reliable secondary sources. From what I have been able to find, this is not the case here. The sourcing primarily leads back to advertising copy and product releases and lacks independence. The creation of a football boots stub seems like a bold move to provide a WP:ATD, but I don't believe that, at this stage, even the general subject has been shown to be notable. A redirect to Nike, Inc. would be more useful at this time, if anyone feels redirect is suitable. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:17, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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Sirfurboy:, can you sign your vote please.
TarnishedPath
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09:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- done. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 09:58, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or Redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: A failure to produce viable references means the WP:golden rule is not satisfied, so this fails WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 11:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Nike CTR360 Maestri
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1) Per WP:NOTADVERT this at the very least needs WP:TNT 2) Fails WP:GNG. After removing unreliable sources what was left were sources from SoccerBible.com and Nike. SoccerBible I'm not actually certain about the reliability of and Nike is obviously not independent of the subject. Most of the SoccerBible references only mention the project in passing in relation to some other subject or are mere product release announcements. The couple that do mention it more than in passing or are product announcements don't constitute in depth or broad coverage given that it's only one source. A google search does not uncover any additional WP:RS. TarnishedPath talk 07:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Products, Sports, and Football. TarnishedPath talk 07:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to a new article on Nike football boots or similar, which would be a notable general topic. Giant Snowman 10:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Once again, we redirect to articles, not other redirects.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)- It was an article - redirected - now restored. Giant Snowman 07:50, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I don't think it is impossible to have an article about a product line. For instance, a car model may clearly be notable for a page, but what makes it notable is significant coverage, independent of the subject in reliable secondary sources. From what I have been able to find, this is not the case here. The sourcing primarily leads back to advertising copy and product releases and lacks independence. The creation of a football boots stub seems like a bold move to provide a WP:ATD, but I don't believe that, at this stage, even the general subject has been shown to be notable. A redirect to Nike, Inc. would be more useful at this time, if anyone feels redirect is suitable. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:17, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- @
Sirfurboy:, can you sign your vote please.
TarnishedPath
talk
09:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- done. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 09:58, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or Redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: A failure to produce viable references means the WP:golden rule is not satisfied, so this fails WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 11:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
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