The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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With just 15 press mentions on Google News and a flair of
WP:PROMO this Ghanian rap star is probably the candidate for a speedy deletion, but let's give it a chance for a proper AfD.
Bbarmadillo (
talk)
16:45, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - Like many WP articles on "rising" music "stars" from Ghana (and also Nigeria), this guy has media mentions that are reprinted press releases from his management (e.g.
[1],
[2][3]), which are then used in attempts to claim that he has received media attention. You could say the same about the "Northern Entertainment Awards" ceremony, which itself receives the same type of PR-based "coverage". Wikipedia should not be yet another cog in this
promotional blitz from his handlers. DOOMSDAYER520 |
TALK |
CONTRIBS16:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete in full agreement with nom and Doomsdayer. It's a shame WP is full of so many non-notable Nigerian/Indian/Ghanaian music "stars". There are no reliable sources available for these people. Social media pages, PR pieces (like album/song/concert announcements), videos, lyrics sites, streaming links, retail sites and interviews are not reliable sources. And these are everything I find when I search for these people. Not to mention those who create these pages are often COI/SPA editors, they only edit that one article, then they disappear into thin air. In some cases, said user might have other edits which saves him from the SPA accusation, but most of his edits revolve around the wannabe "star" so the promotion is still obvious. Like this case too. Look at the article creator's edits. He has edited other things too, but most of his Wiki activity revolves around this guy's page.
GhostDestroyer100 (
talk)
20:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment
In no way am l affiliated to the person in the Nazz King article. All this are false accusations but hey who am l to tell the great and might Wikipedia moderators what to believe.
Lastly some of you speak of sources not being reliable or holding no notability, yet l clearly see Beyoncé's wiki contributors promoting her latest endeavors but all you CHICKEN out and don't call them out because you think upcoming musicians hold no merit right?.It's sad how most of you moedrators channel out your miserables lives failures to most new Articles. — Preceding
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Ramsey555 (
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05:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment Thank you for your "high quality" comment. Very high-brow, very sophisticated. Why don't you learn to sign your comment instead of a comment like this? It would be better for WP. I don't give a crap about Beyoncé, on the contrary you look like you spend a lot of time around her article since you know all of this. And as for your question of "upcoming musicians hold no merit, right?" read the following:
WP:NOTABILITY,
WP:NBAND,
WP:NMUSICIANGhostDestroyer100 (
talk)
12:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Something none of us noticed before: There was an earlier article for this musician with a slightly different spelling of his name, and it was deleted about six months ago at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NazzKing. Near the top of that older discussion, note how Ramsey555 was recorded as claiming that NazzKing was "my page" with an interest in how it appeared in search results. Ramsey555 was involved in that deletion discussion too, in a more subdued fashion but still claiming discrimination against African musicians. His commentary this time collapses into personal accusations, which we can discuss but it still doesn't make Mr. Nazz any more
notable as a musician. Also relevant here is the
other stuff exists fallacy. DOOMSDAYER520 |
TALK |
CONTRIBS13:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment Alright let me make life easier for you, maybe this will make you feel like you are really contributing to Wikipedia,,, Go AHEAD and please delete the damn page, no need of having a senseless and useless discussion in the name of appearing as if you are doing something meaningful. Aren't you guys a bunch of prejudicial know it alls. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Ramsey555 (
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contribs)
09:05, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
With just 15 press mentions on Google News and a flair of
WP:PROMO this Ghanian rap star is probably the candidate for a speedy deletion, but let's give it a chance for a proper AfD.
Bbarmadillo (
talk)
16:45, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - Like many WP articles on "rising" music "stars" from Ghana (and also Nigeria), this guy has media mentions that are reprinted press releases from his management (e.g.
[1],
[2][3]), which are then used in attempts to claim that he has received media attention. You could say the same about the "Northern Entertainment Awards" ceremony, which itself receives the same type of PR-based "coverage". Wikipedia should not be yet another cog in this
promotional blitz from his handlers. DOOMSDAYER520 |
TALK |
CONTRIBS16:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete in full agreement with nom and Doomsdayer. It's a shame WP is full of so many non-notable Nigerian/Indian/Ghanaian music "stars". There are no reliable sources available for these people. Social media pages, PR pieces (like album/song/concert announcements), videos, lyrics sites, streaming links, retail sites and interviews are not reliable sources. And these are everything I find when I search for these people. Not to mention those who create these pages are often COI/SPA editors, they only edit that one article, then they disappear into thin air. In some cases, said user might have other edits which saves him from the SPA accusation, but most of his edits revolve around the wannabe "star" so the promotion is still obvious. Like this case too. Look at the article creator's edits. He has edited other things too, but most of his Wiki activity revolves around this guy's page.
GhostDestroyer100 (
talk)
20:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment
In no way am l affiliated to the person in the Nazz King article. All this are false accusations but hey who am l to tell the great and might Wikipedia moderators what to believe.
Lastly some of you speak of sources not being reliable or holding no notability, yet l clearly see Beyoncé's wiki contributors promoting her latest endeavors but all you CHICKEN out and don't call them out because you think upcoming musicians hold no merit right?.It's sad how most of you moedrators channel out your miserables lives failures to most new Articles. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Ramsey555 (
talk •
contribs)
05:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment Thank you for your "high quality" comment. Very high-brow, very sophisticated. Why don't you learn to sign your comment instead of a comment like this? It would be better for WP. I don't give a crap about Beyoncé, on the contrary you look like you spend a lot of time around her article since you know all of this. And as for your question of "upcoming musicians hold no merit, right?" read the following:
WP:NOTABILITY,
WP:NBAND,
WP:NMUSICIANGhostDestroyer100 (
talk)
12:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Something none of us noticed before: There was an earlier article for this musician with a slightly different spelling of his name, and it was deleted about six months ago at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NazzKing. Near the top of that older discussion, note how Ramsey555 was recorded as claiming that NazzKing was "my page" with an interest in how it appeared in search results. Ramsey555 was involved in that deletion discussion too, in a more subdued fashion but still claiming discrimination against African musicians. His commentary this time collapses into personal accusations, which we can discuss but it still doesn't make Mr. Nazz any more
notable as a musician. Also relevant here is the
other stuff exists fallacy. DOOMSDAYER520 |
TALK |
CONTRIBS13:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment Alright let me make life easier for you, maybe this will make you feel like you are really contributing to Wikipedia,,, Go AHEAD and please delete the damn page, no need of having a senseless and useless discussion in the name of appearing as if you are doing something meaningful. Aren't you guys a bunch of prejudicial know it alls. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Ramsey555 (
talk •
contribs)
09:05, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.