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The result was no consensus and it doesn't appear that a 3rd relist would help Star Mississippi 19:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Nandini Balial

Nandini Balial (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:AUTHOR. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ Let's Talk ! 10:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, India, United States of America, and New York. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ Let's Talk ! 10:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Lest it is relevant, prior to the creation of the article, the subject was mentioned the following way in the following Wikipedia article:
    "Nandini Balial (Ganguly), a young prolific writer in LA is the great granddaughter of Late Monmaya Debi."
    /info/en/?search=Happy_Valley_Tea_Estate Kgayle ( talk) 11:55, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    The following non-Wikipedia article (with a Bengali reference in its initial line) either quotes the (English language) Happy Valley Tea Estate Wikipedia article or is quoted by it:
    "Annapurna Devi was related to the Ganguly family of Khandwa; her maternal uncle was Kunjalal Bihari, father of the famous cine Gangulys. Nandini Balial (Ganguly), a young prolific writer in LA is the great granddaughter of Late Monmaya Debi."
    https://www.brainwayholidays.com/TeaEstate.aspx Kgayle ( talk) 12:05, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Lest relevant, the subject of the Wikipedia article under discussion is mentioned in the following way here:
    "Nandini Balial, a young prolific writer in LA is the remarkable granddaughter of Late Monmaya Debi."
    https://www.hellotravel.com/india/happy-valley-tea-estate Kgayle ( talk) 12:00, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Janet Davison, reporting for CBC News online on Nov 13, 2022 4:00 AM, quotes the subject's professional review first among several quoted:
    "After weeks of anticipation, along with longstanding controversy over mixing royal fact and fiction, Season 5 of The Crown started streaming onto viewers' screens this week and landed to decidedly mixed reviews.
    Still, some themes seemed to emerge, including a sense that this season may lack some of the lustre of previous seasons of the award-winning Netflix drama that offers a fictionalized version of real-life events that unfolded in the House of Windsor during Queen Elizabeth's reign.
    "Season 5 is replete with terrific performances, especially from actors in recurring roles, but it's no longer enough," Nandini Balial wrote on RogerEbert.com. "Writer and creator Peter Morgan's vision, like the monarchy circa 1990, is showing signs of strain."
    "I can forgive The Crown for jazzing up the facts — but not for being so horribly clunky," ran the headline over an opinion column from The Guardian's former royal correspondent, Stephen Bates.
    The Telegraph gave Season 5 two stars out of five, and noted that "Peter Morgan's Netflix drama began as a love letter to the late Queen. These days, he's wielding his poison pen."
    On this side of the Atlantic, the New York Times found "Season 5 doesn't have the life, the hard snap, of The Crown at its best."
    Others were more impressed. "The palace intrigue of The Crown will hold you spellbound," Good Morning America headlined its review, and said the latest season is "more audacious and addictive than ever."
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/royal-visit-remembrance-crown-1.6649264 Kgayle ( talk) 12:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: None of the sources linked in the article help to establish notability. More than half of the sources are blog posts, another has a passing mention in an article about a school, and one to a website where they leave reviews for TV shows. Person is not notable and does not pass WP:GNG. Hey man im josh ( talk) 13:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Thanks.
    Does this one source help?
    Clark, Roy Peter (2021). Murder your darlings and other gentle writing advice from Aristotle to Zinsser. New York: Little, Brown and Company. p. 122. ISBN 9780316481878. Kgayle ( talk) 17:27, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Kgayle ( talk) 17:37, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply


What about this source, a reliable one, substantiating the notability of the subject?

Clark, Roy Peter (2021). Murder your darlings and other gentle writing advice from Aristotle to Zinsser. New York: Little, Brown and Company. p. 122. ISBN 9780316481878. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgayle ( talkcontribs) 15:26, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Weak Keep: This writer strikes me as only barely notable; almost all online references to her are within her own articles. However, we have a large number of brief writer biographies from the significant publications she's written for ( [1], [2], [3], [4]). However, these sources and those already discussed only enable her to barely skirt the notability standards due to the likely non-independent character of the sources I've linked and the offline character of those mentioned by Kgayle. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 23:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete most of the sources are either passing mentions or examples of her work. Fails NBIO by the looks of it.- KH-1 ( talk) 01:51, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 13:19, 13 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 13:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus and it doesn't appear that a 3rd relist would help Star Mississippi 19:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Nandini Balial

Nandini Balial (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:AUTHOR. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ Let's Talk ! 10:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, India, United States of America, and New York. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ Let's Talk ! 10:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Lest it is relevant, prior to the creation of the article, the subject was mentioned the following way in the following Wikipedia article:
    "Nandini Balial (Ganguly), a young prolific writer in LA is the great granddaughter of Late Monmaya Debi."
    /info/en/?search=Happy_Valley_Tea_Estate Kgayle ( talk) 11:55, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    The following non-Wikipedia article (with a Bengali reference in its initial line) either quotes the (English language) Happy Valley Tea Estate Wikipedia article or is quoted by it:
    "Annapurna Devi was related to the Ganguly family of Khandwa; her maternal uncle was Kunjalal Bihari, father of the famous cine Gangulys. Nandini Balial (Ganguly), a young prolific writer in LA is the great granddaughter of Late Monmaya Debi."
    https://www.brainwayholidays.com/TeaEstate.aspx Kgayle ( talk) 12:05, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Lest relevant, the subject of the Wikipedia article under discussion is mentioned in the following way here:
    "Nandini Balial, a young prolific writer in LA is the remarkable granddaughter of Late Monmaya Debi."
    https://www.hellotravel.com/india/happy-valley-tea-estate Kgayle ( talk) 12:00, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Janet Davison, reporting for CBC News online on Nov 13, 2022 4:00 AM, quotes the subject's professional review first among several quoted:
    "After weeks of anticipation, along with longstanding controversy over mixing royal fact and fiction, Season 5 of The Crown started streaming onto viewers' screens this week and landed to decidedly mixed reviews.
    Still, some themes seemed to emerge, including a sense that this season may lack some of the lustre of previous seasons of the award-winning Netflix drama that offers a fictionalized version of real-life events that unfolded in the House of Windsor during Queen Elizabeth's reign.
    "Season 5 is replete with terrific performances, especially from actors in recurring roles, but it's no longer enough," Nandini Balial wrote on RogerEbert.com. "Writer and creator Peter Morgan's vision, like the monarchy circa 1990, is showing signs of strain."
    "I can forgive The Crown for jazzing up the facts — but not for being so horribly clunky," ran the headline over an opinion column from The Guardian's former royal correspondent, Stephen Bates.
    The Telegraph gave Season 5 two stars out of five, and noted that "Peter Morgan's Netflix drama began as a love letter to the late Queen. These days, he's wielding his poison pen."
    On this side of the Atlantic, the New York Times found "Season 5 doesn't have the life, the hard snap, of The Crown at its best."
    Others were more impressed. "The palace intrigue of The Crown will hold you spellbound," Good Morning America headlined its review, and said the latest season is "more audacious and addictive than ever."
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/royal-visit-remembrance-crown-1.6649264 Kgayle ( talk) 12:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: None of the sources linked in the article help to establish notability. More than half of the sources are blog posts, another has a passing mention in an article about a school, and one to a website where they leave reviews for TV shows. Person is not notable and does not pass WP:GNG. Hey man im josh ( talk) 13:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Thanks.
    Does this one source help?
    Clark, Roy Peter (2021). Murder your darlings and other gentle writing advice from Aristotle to Zinsser. New York: Little, Brown and Company. p. 122. ISBN 9780316481878. Kgayle ( talk) 17:27, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Kgayle ( talk) 17:37, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply


What about this source, a reliable one, substantiating the notability of the subject?

Clark, Roy Peter (2021). Murder your darlings and other gentle writing advice from Aristotle to Zinsser. New York: Little, Brown and Company. p. 122. ISBN 9780316481878. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgayle ( talkcontribs) 15:26, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Weak Keep: This writer strikes me as only barely notable; almost all online references to her are within her own articles. However, we have a large number of brief writer biographies from the significant publications she's written for ( [1], [2], [3], [4]). However, these sources and those already discussed only enable her to barely skirt the notability standards due to the likely non-independent character of the sources I've linked and the offline character of those mentioned by Kgayle. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 23:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete most of the sources are either passing mentions or examples of her work. Fails NBIO by the looks of it.- KH-1 ( talk) 01:51, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 13:19, 13 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 13:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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