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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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Coverage seems to be limited to what's on the page. The artist appears to be a rising star so perhaps it's just premature, but I don't think there's a GNG or NBAND pass here just yet.
And frankly, I admit I just want this page deleted so I can stop getting notifications for it after I made it as a redirect last year (not that this is a good reason or part of my actual argument for deletion, but I'm annoyed so I'm saying it anyway). For some reason I don't seem to have any ability to get rid of those and I'm tired of 'em.
QuietHere (
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13:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and England. QuietHere ( talk) 13:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- And don't let me forget to mention that there was just a
PROD on the page which was removed by the article creator noting the complete lack of sources at the time.
QuietHere (
talk)
13:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- You might be getting all those notifications simply because you are "watching" the page. That option is selected automatically when someone creates a page, which probably happened to you as the creator of the old redirect. You may see the "unwatch" option in the tabs at the top of the current article. ---
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14:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Nope, not watching it. Or at least I wasn't before starting this AfD. I'm well familiar with the watchlist and curate mine strictly, and for me that involves unwatching all redirects I make. To be clear, when I say "notifications" I mean the alerts under the bell at the top of the page as well as the notices menu next to it. e.g. My most recent alert is for a PROD notice from a bot for this article which should've gone to the initial contributor instead. QuietHere ( talk) 14:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- You might be getting all those notifications simply because you are "watching" the page. That option is selected automatically when someone creates a page, which probably happened to you as the creator of the old redirect. You may see the "unwatch" option in the tabs at the top of the current article. ---
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14:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - It is possibly
WP:TOOSOON, but the article can be expanded beyond its current state. The article already has two reliable sources from Kerrang and Alternative Press. He has another Alternative Press story here:
[1]; and a few other appearances in Kerrang, including this album review:
[2]. And here's a big feature article from another reliable source:
[3]. I won't argue too much, but this may be a case of a deficient article that makes the subject look less notable than he is, and it could be improved rather than deleted. (However, I am unimpressed by how he YELLS HIS NAME...) ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
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14:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- I seem to remember there was a previous version of this article with his name spelled as "Noahfinnce" and I'm pretty sure it should be moved back to that if it is kept given it doesn't appear to be an acronym. QuietHere ( talk) 14:29, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, all of the reliable sources use the YELL spelling so it's his fault. The recent trend of all-caps names for Gen-Z musicians really annoys me, but I'm only visiting that planet. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:58, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as per the sources identified by Doomsdayer along with Gay Times that show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 22:31, 14 January 2023 (UTC)- Withdraw: Doomsdayer has it right. The sources are fine, it's maybe just barely not too soon but I don't see why this isn't keepable at this point. I just want the notifications gone but this is obviously not the venue for that and this AfD just looks really silly when most of it is about that. QuietHere ( talk) 23:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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Coverage seems to be limited to what's on the page. The artist appears to be a rising star so perhaps it's just premature, but I don't think there's a GNG or NBAND pass here just yet.
And frankly, I admit I just want this page deleted so I can stop getting notifications for it after I made it as a redirect last year (not that this is a good reason or part of my actual argument for deletion, but I'm annoyed so I'm saying it anyway). For some reason I don't seem to have any ability to get rid of those and I'm tired of 'em.
QuietHere (
talk)
13:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and England. QuietHere ( talk) 13:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- And don't let me forget to mention that there was just a
PROD on the page which was removed by the article creator noting the complete lack of sources at the time.
QuietHere (
talk)
13:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- You might be getting all those notifications simply because you are "watching" the page. That option is selected automatically when someone creates a page, which probably happened to you as the creator of the old redirect. You may see the "unwatch" option in the tabs at the top of the current article. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
14:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Nope, not watching it. Or at least I wasn't before starting this AfD. I'm well familiar with the watchlist and curate mine strictly, and for me that involves unwatching all redirects I make. To be clear, when I say "notifications" I mean the alerts under the bell at the top of the page as well as the notices menu next to it. e.g. My most recent alert is for a PROD notice from a bot for this article which should've gone to the initial contributor instead. QuietHere ( talk) 14:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- You might be getting all those notifications simply because you are "watching" the page. That option is selected automatically when someone creates a page, which probably happened to you as the creator of the old redirect. You may see the "unwatch" option in the tabs at the top of the current article. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
14:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - It is possibly
WP:TOOSOON, but the article can be expanded beyond its current state. The article already has two reliable sources from Kerrang and Alternative Press. He has another Alternative Press story here:
[1]; and a few other appearances in Kerrang, including this album review:
[2]. And here's a big feature article from another reliable source:
[3]. I won't argue too much, but this may be a case of a deficient article that makes the subject look less notable than he is, and it could be improved rather than deleted. (However, I am unimpressed by how he YELLS HIS NAME...) ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
14:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- I seem to remember there was a previous version of this article with his name spelled as "Noahfinnce" and I'm pretty sure it should be moved back to that if it is kept given it doesn't appear to be an acronym. QuietHere ( talk) 14:29, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, all of the reliable sources use the YELL spelling so it's his fault. The recent trend of all-caps names for Gen-Z musicians really annoys me, but I'm only visiting that planet. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:58, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as per the sources identified by Doomsdayer along with Gay Times that show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 22:31, 14 January 2023 (UTC)- Withdraw: Doomsdayer has it right. The sources are fine, it's maybe just barely not too soon but I don't see why this isn't keepable at this point. I just want the notifications gone but this is obviously not the venue for that and this AfD just looks really silly when most of it is about that. QuietHere ( talk) 23:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.