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The result was redirect to Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam. Liz Read! Talk! 19:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Myung Jae-nam
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Tagged for notability since 2010. Very scantily sourced. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:04, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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Keep, I found some sources: "masterfighting.com", "hankimuye.org" and "prabook.com". There are other sources I’m too lazy to find. - User: Brachy0008 (talk)DeleteMerge, per below. Brachy08 (Talk) 07:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
DeleteRedirect to Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam Completely fails GNG. The sources listed are not significant reliable and independent at all see below:
Sources listed by User: Brachy0008:
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"masterfighting.com" Non-reliable source, blog site
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"hankimuye.org" non-independent, written by the governing body of his martial art
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"prabook.com" Blog site with a copy paste of wikipedia article.
The two references in article:
- Myung Jae Nam: Hankumdo-bub practice book. Book by the subject. non-independent
- 'Myung Sung Kwan: A Study on Hankido. Thesis by the subject's son. non-independent
Good faith google search does not show significant reliable and indepedant sources. Lethweimaster ( talk) 07:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping to @ Lethweimaster:, I found another source and you forgot to sign.
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lowkickmma.com Mention of only 37 words. As suggested by
WP:100WORDS this source doesn't count as significant coverage, and not the most reliable outlet as well, more like a martial arts blog.
Lethweimaster ( talk) 07:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Then I’d change my vote Brachy08 (Talk) 07:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Has anyone tried searching in Korean? Found some references including https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/3594825, http://www.wtu.kr/139 (apparently there is a statue to honor him), and http://www.mooye.net/8832, etc. There are probably more out there. But interestingly the Korean article for the subject is only a minimal stub which is far shorter and does not offer more references or material for translation. - Indefensible ( talk) 00:20, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam. He already has a section in the main Hapkido article. I'll admit it seems that significant independent coverage is lacking, but he is clearly a significant figure in hapkido's history. Perhaps a few things can be added from the existing individual article to his section in the hapkido article, although I was bothered by the lack of significant independent coverage in the
Hankido,
Hankumdo, and
International H.K.D. Federation articles. Anyway, I strongly believe the redirect is a better choice than outright deletion.
Papaursa (
talk)
14:18, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed with Papaursa for Redirect. Lethweimaster ( talk) 14:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge the picture and references to Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam per Papaursa. - Indefensible ( talk) 16:39, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Hapkido. No independent merit here, as also acknowledged above. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam. Liz Read! Talk! 19:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Myung Jae-nam
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Tagged for notability since 2010. Very scantily sourced. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:04, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Martial arts, and Korea. UtherSRG (talk) 19:04, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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Keep, I found some sources: "masterfighting.com", "hankimuye.org" and "prabook.com". There are other sources I’m too lazy to find. - User: Brachy0008 (talk)DeleteMerge, per below. Brachy08 (Talk) 07:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
DeleteRedirect to Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam Completely fails GNG. The sources listed are not significant reliable and independent at all see below:
Sources listed by User: Brachy0008:
-
"masterfighting.com" Non-reliable source, blog site
-
"hankimuye.org" non-independent, written by the governing body of his martial art
-
"prabook.com" Blog site with a copy paste of wikipedia article.
The two references in article:
- Myung Jae Nam: Hankumdo-bub practice book. Book by the subject. non-independent
- 'Myung Sung Kwan: A Study on Hankido. Thesis by the subject's son. non-independent
Good faith google search does not show significant reliable and indepedant sources. Lethweimaster ( talk) 07:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping to @ Lethweimaster:, I found another source and you forgot to sign.
-
lowkickmma.com Mention of only 37 words. As suggested by
WP:100WORDS this source doesn't count as significant coverage, and not the most reliable outlet as well, more like a martial arts blog.
Lethweimaster ( talk) 07:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Then I’d change my vote Brachy08 (Talk) 07:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Has anyone tried searching in Korean? Found some references including https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/3594825, http://www.wtu.kr/139 (apparently there is a statue to honor him), and http://www.mooye.net/8832, etc. There are probably more out there. But interestingly the Korean article for the subject is only a minimal stub which is far shorter and does not offer more references or material for translation. - Indefensible ( talk) 00:20, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam. He already has a section in the main Hapkido article. I'll admit it seems that significant independent coverage is lacking, but he is clearly a significant figure in hapkido's history. Perhaps a few things can be added from the existing individual article to his section in the hapkido article, although I was bothered by the lack of significant independent coverage in the
Hankido,
Hankumdo, and
International H.K.D. Federation articles. Anyway, I strongly believe the redirect is a better choice than outright deletion.
Papaursa (
talk)
14:18, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed with Papaursa for Redirect. Lethweimaster ( talk) 14:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge the picture and references to Hapkido#Myung Jae-Nam per Papaursa. - Indefensible ( talk) 16:39, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Hapkido. No independent merit here, as also acknowledged above. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.