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The result was delete. The keep arguments are not based on wikipedia's notability guidelines, which GermanJoe demonstrates are not met. This is not a vote so those arguing to keep without explaining how wikipedia's notability guidelines were met were given little to no weight in this closure and as such the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rahel25 makes no difference to this closure. Davewild ( talk) 14:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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Does not pass WP:MUSICBIO. -- XXN, 10:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Mootisave is notable in Europe. saved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.138.235 ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 25 July 2015
- Keep This non profit musical producer is very notable not only in europe. Mootisave is puplished in the bigest newspapers in Germany Bild (Bild Zeitung) Mootisave want start for Germany at Grand Prix in Stockholm. The TV Shows from Mootisave are in the biges TV programs in europe at RTL Television. Looks at References. Absolut Notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahel25 ( talk • contribs) 12:29, 25 July 2015
- Keep: I know Mootisave from RTL TV. Mootisave is very famous. Why delete?? Mootisave is also famous in Turkey. Mehmedk1 ( talk) 14:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC) — Mehmedk1 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep: This article is correct. I see no problem. Mootisave is a relevance and notable music producer and very famous dance group. Mootisave by RTL TV and Mootisave in Das Supertalent by RTL Television. Chrbet360 ( talk) 18:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC) — Chrbet360 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 19:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 19:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep in Hungary is Frank Christoph Schnitzler a notable person. As singer from Mootisave begin he to start at Grand Prix.I think Mootisave is notable in europe and the article is ok in Wikipedia. The references from Mootisave are confirmation this Johann48 ( talk) 22:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC) — Johann48 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- For what exactly is notable this artist? Just some passing mentions in press does not make him notable. He has released only one CD Single (2014). Honours that he received are of locale importance, and anyway they can't make him notable. XXN, 22:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - current references in article are #1 local newspaper from the artist's home town, OK as source but can't establish notability. #2 BILD - just a short news announcement, no in-depth coverage. #3 - #5 I certainly mean no disrespect, but Szob is a tiny village of 3,000 residents (at least per Wiki). Those awards can't establish notability either. The suggested new source above (the lengthy RTL article) is not independent, RTL is the channel for Das Supertalent. A search via Google revealed just the known sources and a few more passing mentions. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - new editors voting here with their first edits (4 of the 5 keep votes above) should read WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Just being well-known is not enough: the topic needs significant in-depth coverage by independent reliable sources. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - Former contestant in a TV talent show where he was voted out after his first appearance. His only nation wide mention was in the 'Bild' newspaper after he announced his try for the European Song Contest. The newspaper named him the worst singer of his state (Ländle) and a jester. He is a honorary knight of a Hungarian order founded in 2011. — Ben Ben ( talk) 01:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep it is not decisive what the newspaper named him or writing. The TV shows with Mootisave are in europe notable. other article here are very no notable as this article. I think its ok to keep it. Rahel25 ( talk) 22:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
— Duplicate vote:
Rahel25 (
talk •
contribs) has already cast a vote above. —
Ben Ben (
talk)
09:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Just another talent show loser. Lost cause he was spectacularly bad. duffbeerforme ( talk) 12:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: an SPI has been opened in connection with this discussion. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rahel25. Mz7 ( talk) 03:41, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The keep arguments are not based on wikipedia's notability guidelines, which GermanJoe demonstrates are not met. This is not a vote so those arguing to keep without explaining how wikipedia's notability guidelines were met were given little to no weight in this closure and as such the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rahel25 makes no difference to this closure. Davewild ( talk) 14:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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Does not pass WP:MUSICBIO. -- XXN, 10:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Mootisave is notable in Europe. saved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.138.235 ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 25 July 2015
- Keep This non profit musical producer is very notable not only in europe. Mootisave is puplished in the bigest newspapers in Germany Bild (Bild Zeitung) Mootisave want start for Germany at Grand Prix in Stockholm. The TV Shows from Mootisave are in the biges TV programs in europe at RTL Television. Looks at References. Absolut Notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahel25 ( talk • contribs) 12:29, 25 July 2015
- Keep: I know Mootisave from RTL TV. Mootisave is very famous. Why delete?? Mootisave is also famous in Turkey. Mehmedk1 ( talk) 14:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC) — Mehmedk1 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep: This article is correct. I see no problem. Mootisave is a relevance and notable music producer and very famous dance group. Mootisave by RTL TV and Mootisave in Das Supertalent by RTL Television. Chrbet360 ( talk) 18:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC) — Chrbet360 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 19:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 19:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep in Hungary is Frank Christoph Schnitzler a notable person. As singer from Mootisave begin he to start at Grand Prix.I think Mootisave is notable in europe and the article is ok in Wikipedia. The references from Mootisave are confirmation this Johann48 ( talk) 22:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC) — Johann48 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- For what exactly is notable this artist? Just some passing mentions in press does not make him notable. He has released only one CD Single (2014). Honours that he received are of locale importance, and anyway they can't make him notable. XXN, 22:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - current references in article are #1 local newspaper from the artist's home town, OK as source but can't establish notability. #2 BILD - just a short news announcement, no in-depth coverage. #3 - #5 I certainly mean no disrespect, but Szob is a tiny village of 3,000 residents (at least per Wiki). Those awards can't establish notability either. The suggested new source above (the lengthy RTL article) is not independent, RTL is the channel for Das Supertalent. A search via Google revealed just the known sources and a few more passing mentions. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - new editors voting here with their first edits (4 of the 5 keep votes above) should read WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Just being well-known is not enough: the topic needs significant in-depth coverage by independent reliable sources. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - Former contestant in a TV talent show where he was voted out after his first appearance. His only nation wide mention was in the 'Bild' newspaper after he announced his try for the European Song Contest. The newspaper named him the worst singer of his state (Ländle) and a jester. He is a honorary knight of a Hungarian order founded in 2011. — Ben Ben ( talk) 01:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep it is not decisive what the newspaper named him or writing. The TV shows with Mootisave are in europe notable. other article here are very no notable as this article. I think its ok to keep it. Rahel25 ( talk) 22:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- — Duplicate vote:
Rahel25 (
talk •
contribs) has already cast a vote above. —
Ben Ben (
talk)
09:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Just another talent show loser. Lost cause he was spectacularly bad. duffbeerforme ( talk) 12:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: an SPI has been opened in connection with this discussion. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rahel25. Mz7 ( talk) 03:41, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.