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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:41, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Monstercat
AfDs for this article:
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat (2nd nomination)
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat (3rd nomination)
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 001 – Launch Week
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 002 – Early Stage
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 003 – Momentum
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 030 – Finale
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 2
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 3
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 4
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat discography
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The article is an example of what Wikipedia is not - a directory. It is a fork of the unofficial 'Monstercat Document' and 'genre sheet' which are not relevant to this record label and does not accurately portray the label for what it is.
"The standard on Wikipedia, as I understand it, is that record labels generally don't have list articles of their entire back catalogs (there is not a Rhino Records discography article for instance), but should instead populate categories. In this case, it would be Category:Monstercat singles and Category:Monstercat albums." - Mendaliv, 2016. This still holds true. Prizyms ( talk) 22:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Rewrite, not remove. There are at least five articles on Wikipedia directly related to Monstercat: Two articles for their compilation albums 001 - Launch Week, 002 - Early Stage, and three wikipedia pages for songs released on the Monstercat label: Alone, Faces, and Saving Light. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - There is also a large amount of wikipedia articles on artists who have released on Monstercat, some of which include: Aero Chord, Aruna, Au5, Bassnectar, Darren Styles, Dirtyphonics, Draper, Fractal, Gareth Emery, Grabbitz, Haywyre, Jauz, Krewella, Marshmello, Mr FijiWiji, Muzzy, Nervo, Pegboard Nerds, Project 46, San Holo, Seven Lions, Slushii, Snails, Timmy Trumpet, Varien, Vicetone, and Wolfgang Gartner. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Artists who have released, collaborated, featured, or remixed on Monstercat not placed in the official Monstercat rosters, but have wikipedia articles of their own: Andy C, Cash Cash, Chali 2na, Cozi Zuehlsdorff, Dani Deahl, Ducked Ape, Eden, Elizaveta Khripounova, Excision, Getter, I See MONSTAS, Juliette Lewis, Kerli, Klaypex, Modestep, Monarchy, Morgan Page, Morten Breum, NGHTMRE, Pierce Fulton, Rusko, Talib Kweli, Taryn Manning, Teddy Killerz, Terravita, Tommie Sunshine, Virtual Riot, Xilent, and 12th Planet. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - And just for the record, I'm only arguing for the existence of a wikipedia article on Monstercat, as the label is significantly notable to have its own page. What I am not defending is putting a long list of Monstercat's releases on its page. A more viable option would be to simply create categories for Monstercat albums and Monstercat songs. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:58, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:58, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The entire article as a whole should not be deleted whatsoever. It should be rewritten or something along the lines of that. It is more than definitely notable enough for Wikipedia. OblivionOfficial ( talk) 16:07, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - obviously notable as a record label, and meets GNG. AfD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. What should have happened is a discussion on the talk page about whether the artist roster (it's not a discography) should be included. Does it meet WP:V? Is it a list, and therefore not everything needs an inline citation? Good points for discussion, but the article shouldn't be deleted. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 16:20, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - It is notable enough to have a page. May need some editing, but that's it. Micro ( Talk) 23:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - I would agree that this is a sufficiently notable entry per the sources. Modify to remove any aspects that may not be entirely appropriate in their current form, but keep the article. ToddLara729 ( talk) 12:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - The page looks like it was cleaned up a lot. I don't know who exactly was trying to add a list of every single Monstercat release, but the nomination for deletion should be removed, and the page should be left alone with only edits to things like the history and roster. PurpleGladiator ( talk) 02:49, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:41, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Monstercat
AfDs for this article:
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat (2nd nomination)
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat (3rd nomination)
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 001 – Launch Week
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 002 – Early Stage
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 003 – Momentum
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat 030 – Finale
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 2
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 3
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 4
- Articles for deletion/Monstercat discography
- Monstercat ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
The article is an example of what Wikipedia is not - a directory. It is a fork of the unofficial 'Monstercat Document' and 'genre sheet' which are not relevant to this record label and does not accurately portray the label for what it is.
"The standard on Wikipedia, as I understand it, is that record labels generally don't have list articles of their entire back catalogs (there is not a Rhino Records discography article for instance), but should instead populate categories. In this case, it would be Category:Monstercat singles and Category:Monstercat albums." - Mendaliv, 2016. This still holds true. Prizyms ( talk) 22:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Rewrite, not remove. There are at least five articles on Wikipedia directly related to Monstercat: Two articles for their compilation albums 001 - Launch Week, 002 - Early Stage, and three wikipedia pages for songs released on the Monstercat label: Alone, Faces, and Saving Light. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - There is also a large amount of wikipedia articles on artists who have released on Monstercat, some of which include: Aero Chord, Aruna, Au5, Bassnectar, Darren Styles, Dirtyphonics, Draper, Fractal, Gareth Emery, Grabbitz, Haywyre, Jauz, Krewella, Marshmello, Mr FijiWiji, Muzzy, Nervo, Pegboard Nerds, Project 46, San Holo, Seven Lions, Slushii, Snails, Timmy Trumpet, Varien, Vicetone, and Wolfgang Gartner. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Artists who have released, collaborated, featured, or remixed on Monstercat not placed in the official Monstercat rosters, but have wikipedia articles of their own: Andy C, Cash Cash, Chali 2na, Cozi Zuehlsdorff, Dani Deahl, Ducked Ape, Eden, Elizaveta Khripounova, Excision, Getter, I See MONSTAS, Juliette Lewis, Kerli, Klaypex, Modestep, Monarchy, Morgan Page, Morten Breum, NGHTMRE, Pierce Fulton, Rusko, Talib Kweli, Taryn Manning, Teddy Killerz, Terravita, Tommie Sunshine, Virtual Riot, Xilent, and 12th Planet. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - And just for the record, I'm only arguing for the existence of a wikipedia article on Monstercat, as the label is significantly notable to have its own page. What I am not defending is putting a long list of Monstercat's releases on its page. A more viable option would be to simply create categories for Monstercat albums and Monstercat songs. Clbsfn ( talk) 00:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:58, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:58, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The entire article as a whole should not be deleted whatsoever. It should be rewritten or something along the lines of that. It is more than definitely notable enough for Wikipedia. OblivionOfficial ( talk) 16:07, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - obviously notable as a record label, and meets GNG. AfD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. What should have happened is a discussion on the talk page about whether the artist roster (it's not a discography) should be included. Does it meet WP:V? Is it a list, and therefore not everything needs an inline citation? Good points for discussion, but the article shouldn't be deleted. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 16:20, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - It is notable enough to have a page. May need some editing, but that's it. Micro ( Talk) 23:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - I would agree that this is a sufficiently notable entry per the sources. Modify to remove any aspects that may not be entirely appropriate in their current form, but keep the article. ToddLara729 ( talk) 12:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - The page looks like it was cleaned up a lot. I don't know who exactly was trying to add a list of every single Monstercat release, but the nomination for deletion should be removed, and the page should be left alone with only edits to things like the history and roster. PurpleGladiator ( talk) 02:49, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.