The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Mediran talk to me! 09:57, 15 December 2012 (UTC) reply
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Suggested action: Do not delete, instead remove the deletion nomination and admonish the nominator. The above statement that half the sources are referenced to Richard Silverstein's blog is flatly untrue. The articles attribute the existence of Mr. X unnamed government officials. The fact that the government sought an emergency gag order when Mr. X's existence was disclosed seems to confirm his existence. It's does not read as an urban legend when six credible journalistic outlets have confirmed his existence with government officials. Instead, this reads as an attempt to censor information pursuant to some government interest. Normally I would not ask, but one wonders as to ZucchiniOne's interest in deleting this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.30.15 ( talk) 23:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC) reply
I second that. There are at least 4 credible news-sources describing the claims brought forth in this article, adding to the validity of it.
I would like this article to remain. I'd like to know more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.65.51 ( talk) 00:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
Every one of the news sources references an article that does not exist. There is zero evidence for this person ever even existing. If this article remains it should be rewritten in the same style as articles for Bigfoot, UFOs, and the Loch Ness monster. Mostly I just don't think that such a poorly sources rumor should exist in article form on Wikipedia. Zuchinni one ( talk) 01:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
For anyone wondering ... here is the original "Source" of Mr. X: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/12/11/mr-x-imprisoned-in-israel-is-iranian-abducted-by-mossad/ Zuchinni one ( talk) 01:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
I think this AfD is a transparently obvious attempt to stop public discussion of this issue – which coincidentally just got a lot of eyeballs and clicks today via reddit.com due to being posted there. (This AfD possibly may also be an attempt to remove specifically this recently added information from the public eye.) 31.18.251.194 ( talk) 01:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
I like to think that Wikipedia is not a platform for verbal political sword-fghting, and as it stands, this article is just a poorly-referenced stub with a lot of allegations. There is only one affirmed source, where the secondary sources have all parroted the first. The fact that the only reference is a personal blog on which any conspiracy theorist can put forward any of his ramblings doesn't help in achieving and/or maintaining WP's standards in verifiability and neutrality. DELETE and go fight political battles elsewhere. ( Personal attack removed)-- Cyclopia talk 01:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC) Mfhulskemper ( talk) 01:29, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
This discussion about deletion seems to be dominated by Zuchinni. I am a Jew and I would like to see this Wikipedia entry concerning prisoner X refined and elucidated upon. I see no reason to delete it before the facts about this story are known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrBillyKidd ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 9 December 2012 (UTC) — DrBillyKidd ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
So I've been thinking about this and here are the facts as far as I can tell:
A cursory read of the articles shows zuchchine Inez's claims that a blog is the source to be false. Time to admonish him. I haven't seen any if those credible journalistic sources confirm the existence of ufo's, Bigfoot, Nessie, etc. the deletion suggestion is bizarre, the claims backing the suggestion lacking in merit, and the end result, if taken, censorious. If there is a concern about confirmation, the article can be written in NPOV. Delete is overkill. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.30.15 ( talk) 03:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC) reply
The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Mediran talk to me! 09:57, 15 December 2012 (UTC) reply
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Suggested action: Do not delete, instead remove the deletion nomination and admonish the nominator. The above statement that half the sources are referenced to Richard Silverstein's blog is flatly untrue. The articles attribute the existence of Mr. X unnamed government officials. The fact that the government sought an emergency gag order when Mr. X's existence was disclosed seems to confirm his existence. It's does not read as an urban legend when six credible journalistic outlets have confirmed his existence with government officials. Instead, this reads as an attempt to censor information pursuant to some government interest. Normally I would not ask, but one wonders as to ZucchiniOne's interest in deleting this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.30.15 ( talk) 23:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC) reply
I second that. There are at least 4 credible news-sources describing the claims brought forth in this article, adding to the validity of it.
I would like this article to remain. I'd like to know more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.65.51 ( talk) 00:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
Every one of the news sources references an article that does not exist. There is zero evidence for this person ever even existing. If this article remains it should be rewritten in the same style as articles for Bigfoot, UFOs, and the Loch Ness monster. Mostly I just don't think that such a poorly sources rumor should exist in article form on Wikipedia. Zuchinni one ( talk) 01:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
For anyone wondering ... here is the original "Source" of Mr. X: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/12/11/mr-x-imprisoned-in-israel-is-iranian-abducted-by-mossad/ Zuchinni one ( talk) 01:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
I think this AfD is a transparently obvious attempt to stop public discussion of this issue – which coincidentally just got a lot of eyeballs and clicks today via reddit.com due to being posted there. (This AfD possibly may also be an attempt to remove specifically this recently added information from the public eye.) 31.18.251.194 ( talk) 01:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
I like to think that Wikipedia is not a platform for verbal political sword-fghting, and as it stands, this article is just a poorly-referenced stub with a lot of allegations. There is only one affirmed source, where the secondary sources have all parroted the first. The fact that the only reference is a personal blog on which any conspiracy theorist can put forward any of his ramblings doesn't help in achieving and/or maintaining WP's standards in verifiability and neutrality. DELETE and go fight political battles elsewhere. ( Personal attack removed)-- Cyclopia talk 01:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC) Mfhulskemper ( talk) 01:29, 9 December 2012 (UTC) reply
This discussion about deletion seems to be dominated by Zuchinni. I am a Jew and I would like to see this Wikipedia entry concerning prisoner X refined and elucidated upon. I see no reason to delete it before the facts about this story are known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrBillyKidd ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 9 December 2012 (UTC) — DrBillyKidd ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
So I've been thinking about this and here are the facts as far as I can tell:
A cursory read of the articles shows zuchchine Inez's claims that a blog is the source to be false. Time to admonish him. I haven't seen any if those credible journalistic sources confirm the existence of ufo's, Bigfoot, Nessie, etc. the deletion suggestion is bizarre, the claims backing the suggestion lacking in merit, and the end result, if taken, censorious. If there is a concern about confirmation, the article can be written in NPOV. Delete is overkill. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.30.15 ( talk) 03:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC) reply