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The result was no consensus. Participation for an AFD open over three weeks has been minimal, and whether any content is suitable for merging or the title for redirecting should be discussed further through normal channels. postdlf ( talk) 18:12, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Miss Earth Albania
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The best I can figure out, this organization was either a part time business for a fashion designer or a part time job working as country director for the Miss Earth business. The single source for anything to do with the business is dead. The 11 sources for who they picked in 2006-2009 are all dead links. Google search provide little useful info. Their business website is also dead. There is no evidence most of the article was ever sourced.
We do know Miss Earth used a sock army to build out numerous pages of a Miss Earth WP:WALLEDGARDEN.
This nomination has precedent. Within the last 12 months the sister articles for Miss Earth India, Miss Earth Crimea, Miss Earth Ireland, Miss Earth Lithuania, Miss Earth Macau, Miss Netherlands Earth, Estonia, Miss Earth Finland, Miss Earth Croatia, Miss Earth Hong Kong, * Belgium as seen in the edit history of the template [1]
Fails WP:ORGDEPTH and likely other criteria. Before anyone says Keep because it is a pageant business, first prove it meets WP:ORGSIG please. Legacypac ( talk) 06:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Comment. I hear your concern about the sock army building out numerous pages of Miss Earth. But we have an article about Miss Earth itself, List of Miss Earth countries, and a list of Miss Earth <country> articles. Some of them are redirects, but some are real articles. Are you planning to nominate others too, i.e. Miss Earth Germany , Miss Earth Mexico, or Miss Earth 2008? -- Mondiad ( talk) 18:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Each of Miss Earth organization needs to pass WP:ORGDEPTH and there are AfDs on several others that do not. The date articles barely survived a recent AfD but were then trimmed back of unsourced fancruft (like Miss Earth 2015) but loads of intricate unsourced detail is being repeatedly reintroduced. Legacypac ( talk) 19:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
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Merge: I understand the comments but I think the information in this article should be transferred to Miss Albania. But I do not think the paid users (and you are so sure about that) because I have created some of the Miss Earth related articles. Artchino ( talk) 05:00, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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Delete: Miss Albania and Miss Earth Albania are two separate competitions although from the names it looks like same winners are automatically jumped to Philippines for Miss Earth. Some haven't even competed. Unless there is a clear proposal on how to merge it into Miss Albania, let's delete it. The user that created the article is clearly a SPA used for promotion.-- Mondiad ( talk) 21:18, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Participation for an AFD open over three weeks has been minimal, and whether any content is suitable for merging or the title for redirecting should be discussed further through normal channels. postdlf ( talk) 18:12, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Miss Earth Albania
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The best I can figure out, this organization was either a part time business for a fashion designer or a part time job working as country director for the Miss Earth business. The single source for anything to do with the business is dead. The 11 sources for who they picked in 2006-2009 are all dead links. Google search provide little useful info. Their business website is also dead. There is no evidence most of the article was ever sourced.
We do know Miss Earth used a sock army to build out numerous pages of a Miss Earth WP:WALLEDGARDEN.
This nomination has precedent. Within the last 12 months the sister articles for Miss Earth India, Miss Earth Crimea, Miss Earth Ireland, Miss Earth Lithuania, Miss Earth Macau, Miss Netherlands Earth, Estonia, Miss Earth Finland, Miss Earth Croatia, Miss Earth Hong Kong, * Belgium as seen in the edit history of the template [1]
Fails WP:ORGDEPTH and likely other criteria. Before anyone says Keep because it is a pageant business, first prove it meets WP:ORGSIG please. Legacypac ( talk) 06:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Comment. I hear your concern about the sock army building out numerous pages of Miss Earth. But we have an article about Miss Earth itself, List of Miss Earth countries, and a list of Miss Earth <country> articles. Some of them are redirects, but some are real articles. Are you planning to nominate others too, i.e. Miss Earth Germany , Miss Earth Mexico, or Miss Earth 2008? -- Mondiad ( talk) 18:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Each of Miss Earth organization needs to pass WP:ORGDEPTH and there are AfDs on several others that do not. The date articles barely survived a recent AfD but were then trimmed back of unsourced fancruft (like Miss Earth 2015) but loads of intricate unsourced detail is being repeatedly reintroduced. Legacypac ( talk) 19:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
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Merge: I understand the comments but I think the information in this article should be transferred to Miss Albania. But I do not think the paid users (and you are so sure about that) because I have created some of the Miss Earth related articles. Artchino ( talk) 05:00, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:18, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Delete: Miss Albania and Miss Earth Albania are two separate competitions although from the names it looks like same winners are automatically jumped to Philippines for Miss Earth. Some haven't even competed. Unless there is a clear proposal on how to merge it into Miss Albania, let's delete it. The user that created the article is clearly a SPA used for promotion.-- Mondiad ( talk) 21:18, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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