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The result was no consensus. ( WP:NPASR). NorthAmerica 1000 14:19, 1 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Mischaela Advani

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Despite the misleading intro, the United Nations Pageants are not associated with the UN. The only sources cited in the article are a PR page and a page on what looks like a blog. I have searched for reliable sources to establish notability but have only found blogs and similar sites. The other claims in the article are about the Kelley School of Business at IU, but they do not establish notability for the article subject. Sarah 04:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC) reply

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Ms. Advani was recently featured on the front page of the Business section of The Republic, a Tribune owned newspaper. http://www.therepublic.com/view/local_story/Columbus-native-wins-United-Na_1415480586 Additionally, Mischaela Advani has a WhoSay profile http://www.whosay.com/mischaelaadvani (which is a social media profile given only to celebrities). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepageantress ( talkcontribs) 05:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC) reply

Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately, I don't think either of those items rise to the requirements set down in the notability guideline. The Republic is a small market newspaper in Columbus, Indiana, with a circulation of around 21,500. The subject appeared in that paper because she is a local girl. Her qualifying for a profile on "WhoSay" is also unhelpful because Wikipedia does not abrogate responsibility for determination of notability to other websites. Sarah 16:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC) reply
Thanks for commenting back Sarah. Coverage of her win has been included in the New York Based Times Union, KSL TV's U.S. News Section, The Bellingham Herald, The Stamford Advocate, The Connecticut Post, The Beaumont Enterprise, NewsOk.com, The Washington Times, The Ledger Enquirer and quite a few more. She was crowned 3 weeks ago, her notability will only increase as time goes on. Look at the Wikipedia pages for Nana Meriwether and Erin Brady, should these be deleted as well? They have fewer news source citations than Mischaela Advani's.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepageantress ( talkcontribs) 19:08, 13 November 2014‎
Those all look like they are the same article from the The Republic posted under different banners but with the same byline. As you suggest, she may become more notable in time, however it is Wikipedia practice to not host articles about subjects until they meet the criteria listed at Notability and Bio (for biographies). Regarding the two women you mention, see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Secondly, I Googled both of them and there is a huge number of articles available by different journalists writing in newspapers all over the world. Many of those publications are considered reliable sources. The results are vastly different to Mischaela Advani. When I looked up "Mischaela Advani" in Google, apart from personal pages, blogs, and social media sites, all I could find was the Columbus article, and a pr release (not a reliable source). By the way, you can sign your comments by typing four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking the signature button at the top of the edit box. Sarah 01:31, 14 November 2014 (UTC) reply

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 17:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC) reply


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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. ( WP:NPASR). NorthAmerica 1000 14:19, 1 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Mischaela Advani

Mischaela Advani (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Despite the misleading intro, the United Nations Pageants are not associated with the UN. The only sources cited in the article are a PR page and a page on what looks like a blog. I have searched for reliable sources to establish notability but have only found blogs and similar sites. The other claims in the article are about the Kelley School of Business at IU, but they do not establish notability for the article subject. Sarah 04:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 04:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 04:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 04:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC) reply

Ms. Advani was recently featured on the front page of the Business section of The Republic, a Tribune owned newspaper. http://www.therepublic.com/view/local_story/Columbus-native-wins-United-Na_1415480586 Additionally, Mischaela Advani has a WhoSay profile http://www.whosay.com/mischaelaadvani (which is a social media profile given only to celebrities). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepageantress ( talkcontribs) 05:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC) reply

Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately, I don't think either of those items rise to the requirements set down in the notability guideline. The Republic is a small market newspaper in Columbus, Indiana, with a circulation of around 21,500. The subject appeared in that paper because she is a local girl. Her qualifying for a profile on "WhoSay" is also unhelpful because Wikipedia does not abrogate responsibility for determination of notability to other websites. Sarah 16:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC) reply
Thanks for commenting back Sarah. Coverage of her win has been included in the New York Based Times Union, KSL TV's U.S. News Section, The Bellingham Herald, The Stamford Advocate, The Connecticut Post, The Beaumont Enterprise, NewsOk.com, The Washington Times, The Ledger Enquirer and quite a few more. She was crowned 3 weeks ago, her notability will only increase as time goes on. Look at the Wikipedia pages for Nana Meriwether and Erin Brady, should these be deleted as well? They have fewer news source citations than Mischaela Advani's.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepageantress ( talkcontribs) 19:08, 13 November 2014‎
Those all look like they are the same article from the The Republic posted under different banners but with the same byline. As you suggest, she may become more notable in time, however it is Wikipedia practice to not host articles about subjects until they meet the criteria listed at Notability and Bio (for biographies). Regarding the two women you mention, see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Secondly, I Googled both of them and there is a huge number of articles available by different journalists writing in newspapers all over the world. Many of those publications are considered reliable sources. The results are vastly different to Mischaela Advani. When I looked up "Mischaela Advani" in Google, apart from personal pages, blogs, and social media sites, all I could find was the Columbus article, and a pr release (not a reliable source). By the way, you can sign your comments by typing four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking the signature button at the top of the edit box. Sarah 01:31, 14 November 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 17:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC) reply


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar  19:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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