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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 22:31, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Michigan Triangle
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WP:FRINGE topic with only two citations - one of which is a broken link. Second reference relates to the crash of a small plane several years ago, which over a windy lake like Lake Michigan is hardly cause for great mystery. No indication that the "Michigan Triangle" exists as a thing in notable sources - google search only pointed to highly fringe websites such as Abovetopsecret.com Simonm223 ( talk) 22:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. Simonm223 ( talk) 22:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete To my considerable surprise a Google turned up a ton of hits on this subject. But almost without exception (at least on the first four pages) they were from sources that massively failed WP:RS. There might be some sources out there that will pass RS. But as of right now this article is a pretty clear case of FRINGE and it fails WP:N and WP:V. That's three strikes. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 01:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Yeah, Jim Butcher actually mined a little bit of the "Lake Michigan eats boats" mythology for a few of his recent novels, however without RSes it's not appropriate for Wikipedia. Simonm223 ( talk) 01:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete Only citations given do not support the claim of the article. Fails WP:N and WP:V Dkriegls ( talk to me!) 06:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG, and likely some WP:OR. mikeman67 ( talk) 18:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete No reliable sources support this concept. It was originated by a single individual in an obscure Sheboygan newspaper story that's been subsequently reprinted in fringy places around the web. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 22:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Having flown across Lake Michigan in scheduled commercial airliners many times, I am well aware of the total lack of credibility for this extraordinary claim, as evidence by all the mainstream sources on commercial aviation saying nothing whatever about any special danger in traveling that heavily traveled route. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 16:41, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Found this [ [1]] which discusses coverage by Dwight_Boyer in one of his books, which I do not have access to. Most likely not enough to qualify as notable coverage. Wickedjacob ( talk) 07:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 22:31, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Michigan Triangle
- Michigan Triangle ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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WP:FRINGE topic with only two citations - one of which is a broken link. Second reference relates to the crash of a small plane several years ago, which over a windy lake like Lake Michigan is hardly cause for great mystery. No indication that the "Michigan Triangle" exists as a thing in notable sources - google search only pointed to highly fringe websites such as Abovetopsecret.com Simonm223 ( talk) 22:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. Simonm223 ( talk) 22:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete To my considerable surprise a Google turned up a ton of hits on this subject. But almost without exception (at least on the first four pages) they were from sources that massively failed WP:RS. There might be some sources out there that will pass RS. But as of right now this article is a pretty clear case of FRINGE and it fails WP:N and WP:V. That's three strikes. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 01:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Yeah, Jim Butcher actually mined a little bit of the "Lake Michigan eats boats" mythology for a few of his recent novels, however without RSes it's not appropriate for Wikipedia. Simonm223 ( talk) 01:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:19, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Only citations given do not support the claim of the article. Fails WP:N and WP:V Dkriegls ( talk to me!) 06:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG, and likely some WP:OR. mikeman67 ( talk) 18:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete No reliable sources support this concept. It was originated by a single individual in an obscure Sheboygan newspaper story that's been subsequently reprinted in fringy places around the web. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 22:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Having flown across Lake Michigan in scheduled commercial airliners many times, I am well aware of the total lack of credibility for this extraordinary claim, as evidence by all the mainstream sources on commercial aviation saying nothing whatever about any special danger in traveling that heavily traveled route. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 16:41, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Found this [ [1]] which discusses coverage by Dwight_Boyer in one of his books, which I do not have access to. Most likely not enough to qualify as notable coverage. Wickedjacob ( talk) 07:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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