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It may be enough to validate notability. I think with a
WP:BEFORE could be easily seen that there is coverage, so my statement about no coverage is actually not correct, it requires much better research on not-easily-found historical sources. Apart from the source
Alpha3031 found, I found a mention of Michel Lanskoy on
Dagblad voor Amersfoort and a mention in the Table Tennis magazine (Vol. 10 March, 1952). Because it is an athlete of 1940s-1950s, it requires a research beyond websites, mainly on historic newspapers and magazines. Although I can't investigate French language sources easily, I also found mentions of Michel Lanskoy on
International herald tribune, many reports on
L'Athlète (Bordeaux) and
Libération. So it's not weak, but keep for me.
Chiserc (
talk)
12:58, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
There's a chance he appears in contemporaneous French newspapers, but the article as it stands fails
WP:GNG and if he's not in those newspapers, the article would need to be deleted. I don't know how to search those newspapers, though, so my !vote should be considered as a very soft one.
SportingFlyerT·C11:11, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
For English language sources, there's also some coverage in the November 1965 Sports Illustrated,
Spongers Seldom Chisel: But the big match was Satoh-Lanskoy. Everyone was waiting to see that one." "Michel Lanskoy? The Frenchman? Why him?" asked an eager junior. "He's not so good." I'd say the SIGCOV here is more of Satoh than Lanskoy, but this is just from the fully indexed and online searchable sources, I would be very surprised if there wasn't more.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c)
12:49, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The fact he appeared in Sports Illustrated at all suggests to me there has to be more out there in French? It's not impossible it's a fluke, but that seems a fairly significant mention.
SportingFlyerT·C13:43, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm not absolutely convinced it's a keep yet - I'd like another source just to be sure. I'd just be surprised if we've found the extent to which he's been covered though.
SportingFlyerT·C14:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Don't see why it has been nominated for deletion, multiple bronze medals in the Swaythling Cup (the worlds biggest table tennis team event, along with women's equivalent). I can only presume it is a lack of understanding of sport that has prompted the nomination.
ApricotFoot (
talk)
11:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
It may be enough to validate notability. I think with a
WP:BEFORE could be easily seen that there is coverage, so my statement about no coverage is actually not correct, it requires much better research on not-easily-found historical sources. Apart from the source
Alpha3031 found, I found a mention of Michel Lanskoy on
Dagblad voor Amersfoort and a mention in the Table Tennis magazine (Vol. 10 March, 1952). Because it is an athlete of 1940s-1950s, it requires a research beyond websites, mainly on historic newspapers and magazines. Although I can't investigate French language sources easily, I also found mentions of Michel Lanskoy on
International herald tribune, many reports on
L'Athlète (Bordeaux) and
Libération. So it's not weak, but keep for me.
Chiserc (
talk)
12:58, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
There's a chance he appears in contemporaneous French newspapers, but the article as it stands fails
WP:GNG and if he's not in those newspapers, the article would need to be deleted. I don't know how to search those newspapers, though, so my !vote should be considered as a very soft one.
SportingFlyerT·C11:11, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
For English language sources, there's also some coverage in the November 1965 Sports Illustrated,
Spongers Seldom Chisel: But the big match was Satoh-Lanskoy. Everyone was waiting to see that one." "Michel Lanskoy? The Frenchman? Why him?" asked an eager junior. "He's not so good." I'd say the SIGCOV here is more of Satoh than Lanskoy, but this is just from the fully indexed and online searchable sources, I would be very surprised if there wasn't more.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c)
12:49, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The fact he appeared in Sports Illustrated at all suggests to me there has to be more out there in French? It's not impossible it's a fluke, but that seems a fairly significant mention.
SportingFlyerT·C13:43, 10 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm not absolutely convinced it's a keep yet - I'd like another source just to be sure. I'd just be surprised if we've found the extent to which he's been covered though.
SportingFlyerT·C14:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Don't see why it has been nominated for deletion, multiple bronze medals in the Swaythling Cup (the worlds biggest table tennis team event, along with women's equivalent). I can only presume it is a lack of understanding of sport that has prompted the nomination.
ApricotFoot (
talk)
11:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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