The result was nomination withdrawn. Der yck C. 15:32, 12 March 2013 (UTC) reply
This is a vanity page of a working financial planner. I let it slide initially, but he has continued to add self promotional content to the point where the article just needs to be cut out. References the company bio and own articles, otherwise promotional industry blogs. Wikipedia is not a marketing platform. Fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO Nixie9 ✉ 13:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC) reply
This is not a "vanity page" - I have posted several pages of notable people in our industry, including Marv Tuttle and Alexandra Armstrong, and think Kitces should qualify too. I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to reference his company bio, but it had a lot of background information about him when I was getting started on this. Within our industry, he has already won awards and made well-known contributions to the industry that meet the criteria you set forth in WP:ANYBIO. I think he's the youngest recipient ever of a Heart of Planning award (not positive though). And as far as I know, User:Mkitces has only posted in the talk for his page, not updates to the article itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finplanwiki ( talk • contribs) 14:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC) reply
As a follow-up, you can also see Kitces has much research cited in Google Scholar ( http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Michael+Kitces%22) and hundreds of books and articles ( https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Michael+Kitces%22). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finplanwiki ( talk • contribs) 17:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC) reply
I just came across this discussion about the Wikipedia page that was created for me, and will abide by whatever the Wikipedia community decides, although as "Finplanwiki" notes I have not been logging into my Wikipedia account here to modify this entry about me. Regarding the discussion that occurred earlier about my involvement with NexGen and whether it should be part of my entry, I would note that the story that is relayed here actually came from the book "The History of Financial Planning" by Brandon and Welch at books.google.com/books?isbn=0470553790. See page 202. Mkitces ( talk) 10:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC) MKitces reply
SPEEDY KEEP - The article of Michael Kitces was recently discussed in an article on Advisor One ( http://www.advisorone.com/2013/02/22/facebook-linkedin-heres-the-ultimate-web-marketing). The article was about someone who gets paid to edit Wikipedia. The article was also brought to the attention of Wikipedia editors on February 25, 2013 via the Signpost ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-02-25/In_the_media). This was the same day that this article was nominated for deletion. After doing a little research, I see that paid editing is not something that is encouraged on Wikipedia. I would like to point out that the article that I referenced on Advisor One used the Wikipedia article of Michael Kitces as an example of a financial planner who has a Wikipedia article, not an example of an article that was paid for. I will also disclose that although I do not have any other edits and have consulted with others about this page, I am not being paid to leave this comment. I will tell you that I am a member of the financial community and I know Mr. Kitces personally which could be a conflict of interest so I will refrain from doing any edits on the article itself. However, I will vote to keep this article and point out some reasons why Mr. Kitces is notable.
The nomination of this page was because it is a “vanity piece” which I am not sure that after reading the criteria for article deletion would qualify to be deleted. “Otherwise promotional blogs” including Forbes Magazine and sites with a high PR ranking. Not sure that it fails notability guidelines as there are significant and reliable sources for the article as named previously in my keep vote above. While the nominator may not believe that the sources in the current article are notable enough, a quick search of Google would have shown the notability of Mr. Kitces.
So basically this looks like someone nominated the article as they do not like paid editing. This article should not only be kept, but the nominator warned for using Wikipedia to illustrate a point about paid editing ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point).-- RinkyDink2013 ( talk) 15:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)— RinkyDink2013 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
RESPONSE I'm not sure where this discussion of paid editors came from. I'm not a paid editor. I'm a practitioner in the financial planning world, who's written bios about several notable people from our industry, including Kitces (who was actually the 3rd, as I did Marv Tuttle and Alexandra Armstrong first, although none of those pages are flagged for takedown). As for notability, with all due respect it doesn't appear Nixie knows anything about who or what constitutes notability in our industry. The Journal of Financial Planning IS the equivalent of our highest "scientific" journal. The Heart of Financial Planning is one of our profession's highest awards (short of the P. Kemp Fain award). Kitces' research was just cited again this week in the Wall Street Journal (see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324162304578304491492559684.html). As bio notability states, "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." Kitces has long since done that, including being mentioned by name in http://www.amazon.com/The-History-Financial-Planning-Transformation/dp/B007PM0F1K for being a co-founder of the NexGen movement. How can you say someone isn't recognized in his field's enduring historical record when he's literally in THE book that IS the recognized historical record for the field! And by the way, Kitces is in Maryland, not Tulsa. Finplanwiki ( talk) 03:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the feedback, as I'm continuing to learn here. The "accolades" section I thought was important because those ARE many of the notability markers within our industry. Financial Planning magazine, Investment News, and Investment Advisor (which have all recognized Kitces notability) are the staples of our industry trade magazines (in addition to the JFP as our trade journal). I can certainly change the label - I literally copied it as a template from Harold Evensky, another notable in our industry. Similarly, I copied the list of books and Journal articles as a template from industry notable Dave Yeske, as a driver of Kitces' notability are his research and book contributions. If you have alternative suggestions about how to structure/label these, I can certainly change them; not knowing what else to do, I was simply copying templates from other Wikipedia profiles in our industry. In the meantime, I added some references for blog notability, as ironically there was one that Kitces tweeted out today. Finplanwiki ( talk) 14:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC) reply
The result was nomination withdrawn. Der yck C. 15:32, 12 March 2013 (UTC) reply
This is a vanity page of a working financial planner. I let it slide initially, but he has continued to add self promotional content to the point where the article just needs to be cut out. References the company bio and own articles, otherwise promotional industry blogs. Wikipedia is not a marketing platform. Fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO Nixie9 ✉ 13:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC) reply
This is not a "vanity page" - I have posted several pages of notable people in our industry, including Marv Tuttle and Alexandra Armstrong, and think Kitces should qualify too. I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to reference his company bio, but it had a lot of background information about him when I was getting started on this. Within our industry, he has already won awards and made well-known contributions to the industry that meet the criteria you set forth in WP:ANYBIO. I think he's the youngest recipient ever of a Heart of Planning award (not positive though). And as far as I know, User:Mkitces has only posted in the talk for his page, not updates to the article itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finplanwiki ( talk • contribs) 14:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC) reply
As a follow-up, you can also see Kitces has much research cited in Google Scholar ( http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Michael+Kitces%22) and hundreds of books and articles ( https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Michael+Kitces%22). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finplanwiki ( talk • contribs) 17:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC) reply
I just came across this discussion about the Wikipedia page that was created for me, and will abide by whatever the Wikipedia community decides, although as "Finplanwiki" notes I have not been logging into my Wikipedia account here to modify this entry about me. Regarding the discussion that occurred earlier about my involvement with NexGen and whether it should be part of my entry, I would note that the story that is relayed here actually came from the book "The History of Financial Planning" by Brandon and Welch at books.google.com/books?isbn=0470553790. See page 202. Mkitces ( talk) 10:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC) MKitces reply
SPEEDY KEEP - The article of Michael Kitces was recently discussed in an article on Advisor One ( http://www.advisorone.com/2013/02/22/facebook-linkedin-heres-the-ultimate-web-marketing). The article was about someone who gets paid to edit Wikipedia. The article was also brought to the attention of Wikipedia editors on February 25, 2013 via the Signpost ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-02-25/In_the_media). This was the same day that this article was nominated for deletion. After doing a little research, I see that paid editing is not something that is encouraged on Wikipedia. I would like to point out that the article that I referenced on Advisor One used the Wikipedia article of Michael Kitces as an example of a financial planner who has a Wikipedia article, not an example of an article that was paid for. I will also disclose that although I do not have any other edits and have consulted with others about this page, I am not being paid to leave this comment. I will tell you that I am a member of the financial community and I know Mr. Kitces personally which could be a conflict of interest so I will refrain from doing any edits on the article itself. However, I will vote to keep this article and point out some reasons why Mr. Kitces is notable.
The nomination of this page was because it is a “vanity piece” which I am not sure that after reading the criteria for article deletion would qualify to be deleted. “Otherwise promotional blogs” including Forbes Magazine and sites with a high PR ranking. Not sure that it fails notability guidelines as there are significant and reliable sources for the article as named previously in my keep vote above. While the nominator may not believe that the sources in the current article are notable enough, a quick search of Google would have shown the notability of Mr. Kitces.
So basically this looks like someone nominated the article as they do not like paid editing. This article should not only be kept, but the nominator warned for using Wikipedia to illustrate a point about paid editing ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point).-- RinkyDink2013 ( talk) 15:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)— RinkyDink2013 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
RESPONSE I'm not sure where this discussion of paid editors came from. I'm not a paid editor. I'm a practitioner in the financial planning world, who's written bios about several notable people from our industry, including Kitces (who was actually the 3rd, as I did Marv Tuttle and Alexandra Armstrong first, although none of those pages are flagged for takedown). As for notability, with all due respect it doesn't appear Nixie knows anything about who or what constitutes notability in our industry. The Journal of Financial Planning IS the equivalent of our highest "scientific" journal. The Heart of Financial Planning is one of our profession's highest awards (short of the P. Kemp Fain award). Kitces' research was just cited again this week in the Wall Street Journal (see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324162304578304491492559684.html). As bio notability states, "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." Kitces has long since done that, including being mentioned by name in http://www.amazon.com/The-History-Financial-Planning-Transformation/dp/B007PM0F1K for being a co-founder of the NexGen movement. How can you say someone isn't recognized in his field's enduring historical record when he's literally in THE book that IS the recognized historical record for the field! And by the way, Kitces is in Maryland, not Tulsa. Finplanwiki ( talk) 03:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the feedback, as I'm continuing to learn here. The "accolades" section I thought was important because those ARE many of the notability markers within our industry. Financial Planning magazine, Investment News, and Investment Advisor (which have all recognized Kitces notability) are the staples of our industry trade magazines (in addition to the JFP as our trade journal). I can certainly change the label - I literally copied it as a template from Harold Evensky, another notable in our industry. Similarly, I copied the list of books and Journal articles as a template from industry notable Dave Yeske, as a driver of Kitces' notability are his research and book contributions. If you have alternative suggestions about how to structure/label these, I can certainly change them; not knowing what else to do, I was simply copying templates from other Wikipedia profiles in our industry. In the meantime, I added some references for blog notability, as ironically there was one that Kitces tweeted out today. Finplanwiki ( talk) 14:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC) reply