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The result was keep. Ja, usually GNG trumps other notability criteria and not the other way around. Policy based criteria such as BLP or OR trump GNG but notability isn't a policy and policies are not at issue here. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 19:17, 29 October 2017 (UTC) reply

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His game may be notable but there's nothing to show that he himself is. The only significant/reliable mention is the article in The Southern but that alone does not satisfy WP:BIO, the impact of the game is not significant enough for notability by association. _{ZXCVBNM ( TALK)} 08:43, 15 October 2017 (UTC) reply

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Hi, while writing this I found some good TV sources on him in the Midwest. I didn’t include them because I thought the Wired (magazine) interview and game-specific sources were a better fit.

KTVI in St. Louis aired this interview: http://fox2now.com/2015/02/08/jefferson-county-man-creates-video-game-for-sony-playstation-4/

KFVS-TV in Cape Girardeau, MO aired this on him: http://www.kfvs12.com/story/28161624/illinois-video-game-creator-is-beating-the-odds

WSIL-TV in Southern Illinois aired this: https://web.archive.org/web/20150112030347/http://www.wsiltv.com/news/local/Local-Game-Developer-Signs-With-Sony-287990851.html

Also, here’s another newspaper article on him: http://www.register-news.com/news/hicks-signs-game-deal-with-sony/article_a698376b-d7a1-5a1f-9007-eeb2fd338c0a.html

I think these sources fit what you’re asking. If they look good to you I’ll include them on the page. Indiestation ( talk) 17:33, 15 October 2017 (UTC) reply

I do think those sources are a better fit for proving notability. I'll defer to others' opinion on this as I haven't encountered this sort of case where local news is used to prove notability rather than the game journalist press, but it does seem more reliable than the previous sources. _{ZXCVBNM ( TALK)} 05:12, 18 October 2017 (UTC) reply

• Keep Seems to pass WP:GNG to me. Govvy ( talk) 20:19, 22 October 2017 (UTC) reply
  • WP:GNG is not the sole criteria for biographies. Per WP:CREATIVE, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work". While he is mentioned in plenty of local news articles, they don't give an indication that his work is well known and significant, besides a mention of being part of GDC. I don't see a pressing reason for him to have an article as opposed to the game that he developed, it seems WP:TOOSOON. _{ZXCVBNM ( TALK)} 13:26, 25 October 2017 (UTC) reply
    • WP:GNG has higher priority than specific criterias. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 08:47, 26 October 2017 (UTC) reply
• Keep I do see quite enough references to pass WP:GNG. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 08:49, 26 October 2017 (UTC) reply

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