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The result was no consensus. — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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No indication of notability, only one of 52 sources is a reliable third-party source, and it doesn't provide enough details about the company to write an article. A Google search for additional sources came up empty. Huon ( talk) 23:37, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. There are 52 sources! And it is credited in IMDB as producing i think 23 films. IMDB is not reliable for some things, but is reliable about basics like that. Editing is needed: the references are "in-line" format but all located in the section for references, not at the relevant locations in the article / table itself. But editing quibbles belong at the Talk page, not at AFD. -- do ncr am 23:49, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. It doesn't matter how many sources there are. If there were 100 sources, and all of them were invalid, it would still get deleted. IMDb can not be used to establish notability. We need verifiability, and the IMDb does not generally offer that. That said, I'm too lazy to go through 50-some citations to ascertain which ones are reliable. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 04:41, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. A quick skim of the "references" in the article doesn't show any reliable sources that are about the company, only about various episodes and shows. The only two I could find are not enough to justify an article. [1] [2] Clarityfiend ( talk) 10:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
- Rename and keep The company head Merit Jensen Carr is a notable Canadian filmmaker, and no bio article exists on her yet. Last year alone, she won the Don Haig Award at Hot Docs, a lifetime award-type honour in Canadian doc cinema, and (less notably) was honoured by the Winnipeg Film Group. So per WP:PRESERVE, a suggest repurposing this as an article about her, with a certain amount of pruning and new info to reflect focus. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 14:53, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Carr seems borderline at best as far as WP:FILMMAKER is concerned. She hasn't gotten a lot of press, par for the course for documentary makers not named Michael Moore. The Don Haig Award (worth $10,000) is okay, but it's no Gemini. Clarityfiend ( talk) 22:18, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete Non-notable film production company. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 02:03, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Almost no coverage at all at any major American or Canadian source. As expected, I got a few hits at the Winnipeg Free Press, but they were just trivial mentions or routine business. I'm not convinced that the founder is notable enough for an article, either; DGG would probably say that the awards are minor. I'd rather keep production companies, distributors, and festivals, but some just aren't notable enough to support an article, even though they're potentially linked from numerous articles. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 22:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Merit Motion Pictures ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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No indication of notability, only one of 52 sources is a reliable third-party source, and it doesn't provide enough details about the company to write an article. A Google search for additional sources came up empty. Huon ( talk) 23:37, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. There are 52 sources! And it is credited in IMDB as producing i think 23 films. IMDB is not reliable for some things, but is reliable about basics like that. Editing is needed: the references are "in-line" format but all located in the section for references, not at the relevant locations in the article / table itself. But editing quibbles belong at the Talk page, not at AFD. -- do ncr am 23:49, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. It doesn't matter how many sources there are. If there were 100 sources, and all of them were invalid, it would still get deleted. IMDb can not be used to establish notability. We need verifiability, and the IMDb does not generally offer that. That said, I'm too lazy to go through 50-some citations to ascertain which ones are reliable. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 04:41, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. A quick skim of the "references" in the article doesn't show any reliable sources that are about the company, only about various episodes and shows. The only two I could find are not enough to justify an article. [1] [2] Clarityfiend ( talk) 10:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
- Rename and keep The company head Merit Jensen Carr is a notable Canadian filmmaker, and no bio article exists on her yet. Last year alone, she won the Don Haig Award at Hot Docs, a lifetime award-type honour in Canadian doc cinema, and (less notably) was honoured by the Winnipeg Film Group. So per WP:PRESERVE, a suggest repurposing this as an article about her, with a certain amount of pruning and new info to reflect focus. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 14:53, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Carr seems borderline at best as far as WP:FILMMAKER is concerned. She hasn't gotten a lot of press, par for the course for documentary makers not named Michael Moore. The Don Haig Award (worth $10,000) is okay, but it's no Gemini. Clarityfiend ( talk) 22:18, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 10:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Non-notable film production company. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 02:03, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Almost no coverage at all at any major American or Canadian source. As expected, I got a few hits at the Winnipeg Free Press, but they were just trivial mentions or routine business. I'm not convinced that the founder is notable enough for an article, either; DGG would probably say that the awards are minor. I'd rather keep production companies, distributors, and festivals, but some just aren't notable enough to support an article, even though they're potentially linked from numerous articles. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 22:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
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