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The result was redirect to The 1975. Consensus is to redirect, Any more edit wars and I'll have the page protected, Anyway consensus is to redirect (non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 21:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Matthew Healy
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There is no indication that this singer is notable independently of the band he leads (
The 1975). Per
WP:MUSICBIO, Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases.
Until recently, the article was, in fact, redirected to The 1975, but edit warring over the redirect by various editors since then has led me to file an AfD to nail down consensus on independent notability. clpo13( talk) 23:58, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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- Redirect to The 1975 as not independently notable. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 03:01, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:59, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975. The lead paragraph says "He is best known for being the lead singer and guitarist for the English Alternative rock band The 1975." and nowhere in the article is there any claim of independent notability. -- Slashme ( talk) 06:46, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975. Not notable outside of the band. Yeepsi ( talk) 11:03, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to the 1975. I was looking for other work he has prominently done, other things he is known for, but I came up empty. Binksternet ( talk) 17:08, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to the 1975. Per above. Sources do not suggest independent notability. Grayfell ( talk) 18:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Strong redirect to the 1975, agree with everyone else here. 108.44.51.127, the IP who started the article, possibly might be the same person as currently blocked User:Wasabi,the,one, whose block was extended due to trying to evade it at Special:Contributions/108.44.59.56. Sro23 ( talk) 19:50, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep It appears that this will be redirected as of now, but we're talking about the quite heavily written about singer of one of the biggest pop bands of today here. Matthew gets a lot of coverage via showbiz and celebrity sort of sources, and a number of things he has said have proved to be controversial. Naturally, this coverage does mention the band, but it's quite clearly about his words and his opinions, and for that I deem him to be clearly independently notable. (Please note that he's often called Matty Healy in the press, not Matthew.) Some examples of coverage:
- There's quite a lot more out there, too, but these are all either substantial interviews with him alone, or press coverage of him and his actions. He's a quite famous, well-known young celebrity who definitely warrants his own article. Just my view. KaisaL ( talk) 13:29, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Healy has had quite a bit of controversy surrounding him, as well as some quite heavily publicised issues with mental illness and drug addiction, thus making him notable independently notable. A lot d of articles on the band also tend to focus on him specifically and his personal life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.117.70 ( talk) 00:19, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975. Clearly all the interviews and articles point towards him being a member of the band. Unless he goes solo or archives Freddie Mercury type of notoriety, this is all WP:TOOSOON and can all be covered in the main article. And his name is Matthew Healy. The British music press has a tendency to stick a lot of names on people (Morrissey as Mozzer etc.) that is considered unencyclopaedic. Karst ( talk) 19:26, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to The 1975. Consensus is to redirect, Any more edit wars and I'll have the page protected, Anyway consensus is to redirect (non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 21:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Matthew Healy
- Matthew Healy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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There is no indication that this singer is notable independently of the band he leads (
The 1975). Per
WP:MUSICBIO, Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases.
Until recently, the article was, in fact, redirected to The 1975, but edit warring over the redirect by various editors since then has led me to file an AfD to nail down consensus on independent notability. clpo13( talk) 23:58, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. clpo13( talk) 23:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. clpo13( talk) 23:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975 as not independently notable. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 03:01, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:59, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975. The lead paragraph says "He is best known for being the lead singer and guitarist for the English Alternative rock band The 1975." and nowhere in the article is there any claim of independent notability. -- Slashme ( talk) 06:46, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975. Not notable outside of the band. Yeepsi ( talk) 11:03, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to the 1975. I was looking for other work he has prominently done, other things he is known for, but I came up empty. Binksternet ( talk) 17:08, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to the 1975. Per above. Sources do not suggest independent notability. Grayfell ( talk) 18:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Strong redirect to the 1975, agree with everyone else here. 108.44.51.127, the IP who started the article, possibly might be the same person as currently blocked User:Wasabi,the,one, whose block was extended due to trying to evade it at Special:Contributions/108.44.59.56. Sro23 ( talk) 19:50, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep It appears that this will be redirected as of now, but we're talking about the quite heavily written about singer of one of the biggest pop bands of today here. Matthew gets a lot of coverage via showbiz and celebrity sort of sources, and a number of things he has said have proved to be controversial. Naturally, this coverage does mention the band, but it's quite clearly about his words and his opinions, and for that I deem him to be clearly independently notable. (Please note that he's often called Matty Healy in the press, not Matthew.) Some examples of coverage:
- There's quite a lot more out there, too, but these are all either substantial interviews with him alone, or press coverage of him and his actions. He's a quite famous, well-known young celebrity who definitely warrants his own article. Just my view. KaisaL ( talk) 13:29, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Healy has had quite a bit of controversy surrounding him, as well as some quite heavily publicised issues with mental illness and drug addiction, thus making him notable independently notable. A lot d of articles on the band also tend to focus on him specifically and his personal life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.117.70 ( talk) 00:19, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to The 1975. Clearly all the interviews and articles point towards him being a member of the band. Unless he goes solo or archives Freddie Mercury type of notoriety, this is all WP:TOOSOON and can all be covered in the main article. And his name is Matthew Healy. The British music press has a tendency to stick a lot of names on people (Morrissey as Mozzer etc.) that is considered unencyclopaedic. Karst ( talk) 19:26, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.