The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Okay, this discussion is closed. Now you can pursue other Merge options. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Mastering engineer

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This has been tagged as having issues for two years for being based on OR. Slatersteven ( talk) 16:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music and Engineering. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Strong keep - Mastering engineer seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME for a person who professionally masters audio. I would advise the nominator to read WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Mastering engineers are, for instance, one type of recipient eligible to receive a Grammy award - Grammy Award for Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical. Plenty of good quality sources are available on Google if you search for mastering engineer, happy to provide some if anyone seriously doubts that. BrigadierG ( talk) 18:38, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge Mastering (audio) into this article. Currently, we have articles on both the profession of mastering engineers and the field of mastering, even though Audio engineer and Audio engineering point to the same place. To match that article, we should turn Mastering (audio) into a redirect to this article after information and citations have been merged. Mach61 18:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC) Keep per Liz comment below. Mach61 21:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  This is a vote on the mastering engineer article, you can't vote to do things to other articles as part of this AfD - this is just a keep vote. BrigadierG ( talk) 18:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ BrigadierG WP:AFDFORMAT explicitly states If you think the article should be a disambiguation page, a redirect or merger to another article, then recommend "Disambiguation", "Redirect" or "Merge". Do not recommend deletion in such cases. Mach61 18:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Yes, exactly. You do not think the page Mastering engineer should be a disambiguation page, a redirect or merger to another article, so you would not vote for disambiguation, redirection, merge, or delete. You would vote keep. BrigadierG ( talk) 18:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ BrigadierG Fair. The reason I put "merge" as my bolded vote is that the mastering article was of higher quality and detail, so most of the content in a combined article would be from there. Mach61 18:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  That is fair enough BrigadierG ( talk) 19:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Merge seems fair. Slatersteven ( talk) 10:11, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Merge Keep per Liz's comment and Mach61's analogy with Audio engineer and Audio engineering. NicolausPrime ( talk) 11:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This AFD is about what happens with Mastering engineer not an another article you want to Merge into this one. BrigadierG is correct, unless you want Mastering engineer Merged into the other article (which I don't think is what you want, you need to vote Keep here and then nominate the other article for a Merge to this one or just be bold and do it yourself. But this is not a discussion on Mastering (audio).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ NicolausPrime @ Mach61 would you be willing to amend your vote per Liz's reasoning above? BrigadierG ( talk) 12:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Done. Sorry for not taking your comment into account earlier. NicolausPrime ( talk) 14:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ BrigadierG@ NicolausPrime I discussed this on Liz's talk page, would wait for response over there. Mach61 15:16, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Merge and delete is a valid option, see below. Slatersteven ( talk) 15:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Response given over there, changing vote to Keep. Slatersteven as there is unanimous agreement from everyone but you to keep, you can withdraw this AFD and end it early. Mach61 21:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

WP:MERGEDELETE. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

This doesn't apply here. Nobody wants to delete or merge Mastering Engineer into another article. BrigadierG ( talk) 18:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.