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The result was merge to Japan Karate Association. Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Has been on the list of articles not meeting
WP:NBIO for 14 years. A bare number of sources (two) and no corresponding Japanese article strongly suggest he does not meet
WP:GNG in addition to clearly failing
WP:NSPORT.
Allan Nonymous (
talk)
12:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, and Japan. Shellwood ( talk) 12:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I haven't had a chance to do any sort of research so not ready to give an opinion yet. However, I am leaning keep simply on the basis that there's little reason to believe that OP did a
WP:BEFORE search that included
Japanese-language sources. If he had, he would have quickly run across the corresponding
Japanese-language article which the nomination asserts does not exist.
DCsansei (
talk)
16:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- OOPS!
WP:TROUT moment for me here. I copied the name listed in the article, which (had a space) at the time. The article did not have a space, so I missed it and assumed there wasn't an article. I've struck that from the nom. Looking at that article, there's only one source and its
WP:ABOUTSELF, so I think the nom is still good, at least.
Allan Nonymous (
talk)
19:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I haven't been able to turn up much of anything here. It's odd given what's seemingly verifiable about his importance within Karate as head of Japan Karate Association but not much in the way of coverage of any of that. I don't want to !vote delete since I think the odds that there are sources offline in Japanese are very high but can't demonstrate that at this point. DCsansei ( talk) 10:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- OOPS!
WP:TROUT moment for me here. I copied the name listed in the article, which (had a space) at the time. The article did not have a space, so I missed it and assumed there wasn't an article. I've struck that from the nom. Looking at that article, there's only one source and its
WP:ABOUTSELF, so I think the nom is still good, at least.
Allan Nonymous (
talk)
19:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Japan Karate Association which he is chief instructor of [1]. There likely is enough to write a biography of Ueki but I don't have access to Japanese newspaper archives (which are largely not digitized). Fwiw, likely that this book published by Kodansha by one of his contemporaries in JKA covers him. There is this coverage of his visit to New Zealand. Would not be opposed to keeping and happy to revisit if more is found. DCsansei ( talk) 11:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Japan Karate Association There's no evidence given that there's significant independent coverage to justify an individual article, but he is mentioned three times in the JKA article. The individual article can be recreated if better references are found. Meanwhile, he's linked to the organization he's most closely associated with. Papaursa ( talk) 02:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Japan Karate Association. Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Masaaki Ueki ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Has been on the list of articles not meeting
WP:NBIO for 14 years. A bare number of sources (two) and no corresponding Japanese article strongly suggest he does not meet
WP:GNG in addition to clearly failing
WP:NSPORT.
Allan Nonymous (
talk)
12:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, and Japan. Shellwood ( talk) 12:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I haven't had a chance to do any sort of research so not ready to give an opinion yet. However, I am leaning keep simply on the basis that there's little reason to believe that OP did a
WP:BEFORE search that included
Japanese-language sources. If he had, he would have quickly run across the corresponding
Japanese-language article which the nomination asserts does not exist.
DCsansei (
talk)
16:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- OOPS!
WP:TROUT moment for me here. I copied the name listed in the article, which (had a space) at the time. The article did not have a space, so I missed it and assumed there wasn't an article. I've struck that from the nom. Looking at that article, there's only one source and its
WP:ABOUTSELF, so I think the nom is still good, at least.
Allan Nonymous (
talk)
19:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I haven't been able to turn up much of anything here. It's odd given what's seemingly verifiable about his importance within Karate as head of Japan Karate Association but not much in the way of coverage of any of that. I don't want to !vote delete since I think the odds that there are sources offline in Japanese are very high but can't demonstrate that at this point. DCsansei ( talk) 10:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- OOPS!
WP:TROUT moment for me here. I copied the name listed in the article, which (had a space) at the time. The article did not have a space, so I missed it and assumed there wasn't an article. I've struck that from the nom. Looking at that article, there's only one source and its
WP:ABOUTSELF, so I think the nom is still good, at least.
Allan Nonymous (
talk)
19:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Japan Karate Association which he is chief instructor of [1]. There likely is enough to write a biography of Ueki but I don't have access to Japanese newspaper archives (which are largely not digitized). Fwiw, likely that this book published by Kodansha by one of his contemporaries in JKA covers him. There is this coverage of his visit to New Zealand. Would not be opposed to keeping and happy to revisit if more is found. DCsansei ( talk) 11:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Japan Karate Association There's no evidence given that there's significant independent coverage to justify an individual article, but he is mentioned three times in the JKA article. The individual article can be recreated if better references are found. Meanwhile, he's linked to the organization he's most closely associated with. Papaursa ( talk) 02:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.