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Weak keep - I accept that the person is established as a musician, and has worked with serious players, but I'm not 100% convinced that this is enough, there's a touch of notability-by-association. But if referenced for the current content, I'd be OK, I'd rather have them in and build up the article if they qualify at all. Some creators really do need to be clearer on the "why notable" point.
SeoR (
talk)
15:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. In all honesty, after my own
WP:BEFORE, and while I am not minded to recommend deletion, I also can't advocate for a keep. Many of the sources that are available (including those listed by
Oaktree b above) are largely trivial passing mentions. The only sources that I can find, which deal with the subject as a primary topic, are the same
WP:INTERVIEWs we have in the article. Neither meeting the expectation of
WP:IS. The regional news articles, which include the subject in the title and seem to offer a bit more (like
"Mary Staunton brings top trad to the stage" (2010) Mayo Advertiser) are, in effect, ROTM gig announcements. Not in-depth/independent/biographical coverage. The (one-off?) collaboration with Prine/Gleeson/Epping doesn't meet my understanding of
WP:MUSICBIO#C6 (musicians play on each other's albums all the time - it does not make them an "ensemble" in the meaning given in
WP:BAND). "She once collaborated with someone famous" is, I note, the first example given in
WP:INHERITED. And, as has been noted by
Boleyn, the related assertion/text isn't wasn't supported by a verifiable/independent source either. Anyway, even though it seems like the article is unlikely to be deleted (and I'm not necessarily arguing that it should), as noted by others contributing here, the sources/etc are a little on the "weak" side. To the extent that, if kept, I do not know how that "
WP:PRIMARY" tag can be removed. Or how (absent independent/reliable/verifiable sources) we can expand the article beyond the few sentences we have...
Guliolopez (
talk)
12:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Weak keep - I accept that the person is established as a musician, and has worked with serious players, but I'm not 100% convinced that this is enough, there's a touch of notability-by-association. But if referenced for the current content, I'd be OK, I'd rather have them in and build up the article if they qualify at all. Some creators really do need to be clearer on the "why notable" point.
SeoR (
talk)
15:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. In all honesty, after my own
WP:BEFORE, and while I am not minded to recommend deletion, I also can't advocate for a keep. Many of the sources that are available (including those listed by
Oaktree b above) are largely trivial passing mentions. The only sources that I can find, which deal with the subject as a primary topic, are the same
WP:INTERVIEWs we have in the article. Neither meeting the expectation of
WP:IS. The regional news articles, which include the subject in the title and seem to offer a bit more (like
"Mary Staunton brings top trad to the stage" (2010) Mayo Advertiser) are, in effect, ROTM gig announcements. Not in-depth/independent/biographical coverage. The (one-off?) collaboration with Prine/Gleeson/Epping doesn't meet my understanding of
WP:MUSICBIO#C6 (musicians play on each other's albums all the time - it does not make them an "ensemble" in the meaning given in
WP:BAND). "She once collaborated with someone famous" is, I note, the first example given in
WP:INHERITED. And, as has been noted by
Boleyn, the related assertion/text isn't wasn't supported by a verifiable/independent source either. Anyway, even though it seems like the article is unlikely to be deleted (and I'm not necessarily arguing that it should), as noted by others contributing here, the sources/etc are a little on the "weak" side. To the extent that, if kept, I do not know how that "
WP:PRIMARY" tag can be removed. Or how (absent independent/reliable/verifiable sources) we can expand the article beyond the few sentences we have...
Guliolopez (
talk)
12:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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