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The result was delete. czar 21:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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Subject is mixed martial arts fighter. Fails WP:MMABIO for not having at leat 3 fights under top tier promotion and also fail GNG for fight records are merely routine reports. Cassiopeia talk 20:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: There are several top tier fighting promotors, one being the UFC and another being ONE Championship. Mugen has only fought in one UFC event but he has fought in 3 ONE Championship events (Valor of Champions, Spirit of Champions, and Age of Domination) and in two of those fights his fight was listed as the co-main event. In the international competition 2019 Southeast Asian Games, he won the gold medal in Sambo for the 74kg weight group representing the Phillipines. As of today he is still an active fighter on the UFC's official page, even if we are not privy to his arrangements for future fights. PyotrRossetti PyotrRossetti ( talk) 21:33, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: ONE Championship is not a top tier promotion as per Wikipedia MMA guidelines. And being SEA game gold medalist doesnt not qualify WP:NSPORT. He has only 1 fight under UFC, the requirement is at least 3. Cassiopeia talk 23:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt As per above. And please salt the page because it was recreated after it was nominated for deletion for the past 4 years. see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Striegl. SeanJ 2007 ( talk) 04:20, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Little has changed since the last AfD discussion. He has one top tier MMA fight and since it was a 51 second knockout loss (and his only fight in the last 3 years), he seems unlikely to get two more. Listings in MMA databases do not overcome the fact that there is no significant independent coverage that makes a case that WP:GNG is met. Papaursa ( talk) 15:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment No opinion on if he meets BASIC, but I would oppose salting as he has made progress towards notability in the last few years, and from a quick search there are plans for him to compete in UFC again this year. It's possible he'll meet MMABIO within a few years. Jumpytoo Talk 01:52, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment To meet the MMABIO within a few years is WP:CRYSTAL and if he does in next few years then the page can be created. Wikipedia notability is not based on crystal or if but need to meets already before a page can be existed in the projgect. Cassiopeia talk 02:34, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NSPORT per above arguments. SBKSPP ( talk) 00:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. czar 21:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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Subject is mixed martial arts fighter. Fails WP:MMABIO for not having at leat 3 fights under top tier promotion and also fail GNG for fight records are merely routine reports. Cassiopeia talk 20:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Cassiopeia talk 20:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Cassiopeia talk 20:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Cassiopeia talk 20:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: There are several top tier fighting promotors, one being the UFC and another being ONE Championship. Mugen has only fought in one UFC event but he has fought in 3 ONE Championship events (Valor of Champions, Spirit of Champions, and Age of Domination) and in two of those fights his fight was listed as the co-main event. In the international competition 2019 Southeast Asian Games, he won the gold medal in Sambo for the 74kg weight group representing the Phillipines. As of today he is still an active fighter on the UFC's official page, even if we are not privy to his arrangements for future fights. PyotrRossetti PyotrRossetti ( talk) 21:33, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: ONE Championship is not a top tier promotion as per Wikipedia MMA guidelines. And being SEA game gold medalist doesnt not qualify WP:NSPORT. He has only 1 fight under UFC, the requirement is at least 3. Cassiopeia talk 23:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt As per above. And please salt the page because it was recreated after it was nominated for deletion for the past 4 years. see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Striegl. SeanJ 2007 ( talk) 04:20, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Little has changed since the last AfD discussion. He has one top tier MMA fight and since it was a 51 second knockout loss (and his only fight in the last 3 years), he seems unlikely to get two more. Listings in MMA databases do not overcome the fact that there is no significant independent coverage that makes a case that WP:GNG is met. Papaursa ( talk) 15:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment No opinion on if he meets BASIC, but I would oppose salting as he has made progress towards notability in the last few years, and from a quick search there are plans for him to compete in UFC again this year. It's possible he'll meet MMABIO within a few years. Jumpytoo Talk 01:52, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment To meet the MMABIO within a few years is WP:CRYSTAL and if he does in next few years then the page can be created. Wikipedia notability is not based on crystal or if but need to meets already before a page can be existed in the projgect. Cassiopeia talk 02:34, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NSPORT per above arguments. SBKSPP ( talk) 00:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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