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The result was withdrawn by nominator. I'm correcting for format because the nominator used the wrong template to close it. Bearcat ( talk) 05:57, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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This article was created shortly after it was announced that she had been retained by Jian Ghomeshi. She also represented Michael Bryant in a high profile case. Although these cases may be significant, the coverage has not been about her. The only coverage about her has been routine coverage of her cases and some coverage in an industry publication. She fails WP:GNG. Tchaliburton ( talk) 00:20, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator. I'm now inclined to believe she meets
WP:GNG.
Tchaliburton (
talk)
00:23, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. She is a lawyer, so the sources that call her notable are from Canadian Lawyer magazine. If an article for a musician was created, would you argue they failed
WP:GNG because all the articles about her were from music magazines? Or an article about a scientist who had coverage in scientific magazines? I read GNG, and it doesn't disallow industry magazines as sources. Her coverage in the industry publication calls her one of the top 25 lawyers in Canada. P.S. I created this article
OnBeyondZebrax (
talk)
00:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that industry publications can't contribute to notability, I'm just saying there isn't enough here to satisfy
WP:GNG.
Tchaliburton (
talk)
00:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Additional criteria: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times"; She won the Legge Award for Canadian women lawyers, which "recognizes women lawyers from Ontario who have exemplified leadership within the profession."
- I'm not saying that industry publications can't contribute to notability, I'm just saying there isn't enough here to satisfy
WP:GNG.
Tchaliburton (
talk)
00:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. She is a lawyer, so the sources that call her notable are from Canadian Lawyer magazine. If an article for a musician was created, would you argue they failed
WP:GNG because all the articles about her were from music magazines? Or an article about a scientist who had coverage in scientific magazines? I read GNG, and it doesn't disallow industry magazines as sources. Her coverage in the industry publication calls her one of the top 25 lawyers in Canada. P.S. I created this article
OnBeyondZebrax (
talk)
00:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
[1] OnBeyondZebrax ( talk) 13:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Many of the other lawyers in the Top 25 lawyers in Canada are in Wikipedia. None of the women are. Maybe the issue isn't that she shouldn't be included but, rather, one where the others should. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spicegw 001 ( talk • contribs) 17:23, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Ghomeshi nonsense is still sub judice and there's likely plenty more news to come out in mainstream Toronto media because of it. We should let that run its course. K7L ( talk) 02:07, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Oppose Click on the "news" link in the template above yields an impressive amount of Gnews coverage that easily satisfies WP:BASIC. Prominently mentioned in Michael Bryant's book 28 Days, too. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 04:40, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result was withdrawn by nominator. I'm correcting for format because the nominator used the wrong template to close it. Bearcat ( talk) 05:57, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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This article was created shortly after it was announced that she had been retained by Jian Ghomeshi. She also represented Michael Bryant in a high profile case. Although these cases may be significant, the coverage has not been about her. The only coverage about her has been routine coverage of her cases and some coverage in an industry publication. She fails WP:GNG. Tchaliburton ( talk) 00:20, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator. I'm now inclined to believe she meets
WP:GNG.
Tchaliburton (
talk)
00:23, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. She is a lawyer, so the sources that call her notable are from Canadian Lawyer magazine. If an article for a musician was created, would you argue they failed
WP:GNG because all the articles about her were from music magazines? Or an article about a scientist who had coverage in scientific magazines? I read GNG, and it doesn't disallow industry magazines as sources. Her coverage in the industry publication calls her one of the top 25 lawyers in Canada. P.S. I created this article
OnBeyondZebrax (
talk)
00:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that industry publications can't contribute to notability, I'm just saying there isn't enough here to satisfy
WP:GNG.
Tchaliburton (
talk)
00:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Additional criteria: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times"; She won the Legge Award for Canadian women lawyers, which "recognizes women lawyers from Ontario who have exemplified leadership within the profession."
- I'm not saying that industry publications can't contribute to notability, I'm just saying there isn't enough here to satisfy
WP:GNG.
Tchaliburton (
talk)
00:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. She is a lawyer, so the sources that call her notable are from Canadian Lawyer magazine. If an article for a musician was created, would you argue they failed
WP:GNG because all the articles about her were from music magazines? Or an article about a scientist who had coverage in scientific magazines? I read GNG, and it doesn't disallow industry magazines as sources. Her coverage in the industry publication calls her one of the top 25 lawyers in Canada. P.S. I created this article
OnBeyondZebrax (
talk)
00:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
[1] OnBeyondZebrax ( talk) 13:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Many of the other lawyers in the Top 25 lawyers in Canada are in Wikipedia. None of the women are. Maybe the issue isn't that she shouldn't be included but, rather, one where the others should. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spicegw 001 ( talk • contribs) 17:23, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Ghomeshi nonsense is still sub judice and there's likely plenty more news to come out in mainstream Toronto media because of it. We should let that run its course. K7L ( talk) 02:07, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:18, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 03:30, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Click on the "news" link in the template above yields an impressive amount of Gnews coverage that easily satisfies WP:BASIC. Prominently mentioned in Michael Bryant's book 28 Days, too. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 04:40, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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