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The result was speedy keep. Player passes WP:NFOOTY has players a senior international match. Fenix down ( talk) 09:15, 8 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Mariana Cadena

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Contest dePROD, Joeykai removed PROD without any reason. The previous PROD was Player fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Discussion here failed to achieve consensus that the league was fully professional. With only a small handful of games played and no indication of international appearances at any level, it is doubtful that the player could satisfy GNG. The PROD was nominated by Fenix down. Although she played some friendly matches for national team, I do not see any evidence that those matches are approved by FIFA. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 21:04, 7 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 21:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC) reply

• Keep as she passes WP:NFOOTBALL as she has played in a senior international match for the Mexico national team. Joeykai ( talk) 22:58, 7 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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• Keep Passes WP:NFOOTBALL having played for Mexico, it maybe a friendly but they are recognised by FIFA if between two FIFA-recognised nations, is my understanding. NZFC ^(talk) 00:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC) reply
• Comment. This player has played senior international football. There is a citation in the article showing she played for Mexico against Venezuela, which is listed on FIFA.com as a Tier 1 international match. However, WP:NFOOTY requires participation at confederation level, and it doesn't look like confederation tournaments exist for women's soccer, leaving only the World Cup and Olympics as considered to confer notability. The list of fully professional leagues is very short for women, too: there is currently only the US league. Is this an example of systemic bias? It looks like Cadena could do almost anything in soccer, and she still would not be considered notable until and unless she plays in the 2019 World Cup. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 00:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Confederation tournaments do exist for women's soccer, CONCACAF Women's Gold Cup or CONCACAF Women's Olympic Qualifying Tournament for example Joeykai ( talk) 01:56, 8 January 2018 (UTC) reply

FIFA.com lists CONCACAF Women's Gold Cup as WWC preliminaries (e.g., "FIFA WWC 2015 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF"), so I was including that as part of World Cup. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 02:13, 8 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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