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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:36, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Does not meet general notability or American football notability guidelines because he has not played at a professional level. Declaring for the NFL draft is no guarantee of playing in the NFL. Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:30, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Disagree. Forget the draft stuff, he clearly passes GNG.-- Yankees10 03:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep First-team All-Pac-12 in 2015, second-team this year. Has 11 career interceptions for a major program. Lizard ( talk) 03:44, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment Since no one bothers to abide by WP:BEFORE, I've taken it upon myself to do the work for you and have added references that should satisfy GNG. You're welcome Lizard ( talk) 05:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as we judge and base these articles by the applicable notability and, in this case, it's football and since he's not played in actual team-league, there's no notability, simply stating "But we should accept it!" is not notability itself; the AllPac is entirely trivial and isn't significant. SwisterTwister talk 06:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, as per the sources added to the article by Lizard. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 21:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 23:55, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep I'm not sure what @ SwisterTwister: means by an 'actual team-league'... they definitely have teams in the Pac-12 and it is a league, per se. We judge these articles first and foremost on whether or not the subjects have sufficient coverage in reliable sources. GNG > football-specifically notability guidelines. Lepricavark ( talk) 03:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes GNG, although not by that much given that the 2 best articles are both from the same newspaper. But I think there is enough. I too do not understand @ SwisterTwister:'s concerns, since a special notability guideline is irrelevant if the subject passes GNG. Rlendog ( talk) 03:55, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep it seems that the article has sources to pass WP:GNG.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 05:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:36, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Marcus Williams (safety) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Does not meet general notability or American football notability guidelines because he has not played at a professional level. Declaring for the NFL draft is no guarantee of playing in the NFL. Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:30, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Disagree. Forget the draft stuff, he clearly passes GNG.-- Yankees10 03:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep First-team All-Pac-12 in 2015, second-team this year. Has 11 career interceptions for a major program. Lizard ( talk) 03:44, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment Since no one bothers to abide by WP:BEFORE, I've taken it upon myself to do the work for you and have added references that should satisfy GNG. You're welcome Lizard ( talk) 05:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as we judge and base these articles by the applicable notability and, in this case, it's football and since he's not played in actual team-league, there's no notability, simply stating "But we should accept it!" is not notability itself; the AllPac is entirely trivial and isn't significant. SwisterTwister talk 06:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, as per the sources added to the article by Lizard. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 21:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 23:55, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 23:55, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep I'm not sure what @ SwisterTwister: means by an 'actual team-league'... they definitely have teams in the Pac-12 and it is a league, per se. We judge these articles first and foremost on whether or not the subjects have sufficient coverage in reliable sources. GNG > football-specifically notability guidelines. Lepricavark ( talk) 03:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes GNG, although not by that much given that the 2 best articles are both from the same newspaper. But I think there is enough. I too do not understand @ SwisterTwister:'s concerns, since a special notability guideline is irrelevant if the subject passes GNG. Rlendog ( talk) 03:55, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep it seems that the article has sources to pass WP:GNG.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 05:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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