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The result was delete. Closing early for BLP vio and SNOW. Valereee ( talk) 19:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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The three criteria of
WP:BLP1E are met, indicating that we generally should avoid having an article
on this person. (1) Reliable sources exist, but only cover her in the context of her involvement with Hunter Biden, (2) she otherwise is and likely will remain a low-profile individual, and (3) her association with Hunter Biden is not a significant event from an encyclopedic standpoint.
WP:BIO1E states the general rule is to cover the event, not the person
. I believe "the event" is sufficiently covered at
Hunter Biden#Relationships. –
Muboshgu (
talk)
15:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and United States of America. – Muboshgu ( talk) 15:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Subject is notable for one thing. Coatrack smear political narrative. SPECIFICO talk 15:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Notability WP:NOTINHERITED. Sources mostly about her daughter and relation to Joe and Hunter Biden. GNG not shown, and has less chance of showing notability than her daughter's quickly deleted article. WikiVirus C (talk) 15:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - This article is about child support litigation against the son of the US President masquerading as a biography. The lawyer for the woman, Clint Lancaster, also represented the Trump campaign, the main rival to the US President in the previous and next election. The woman is not known for anything otherwise. The creator of this article also created the now deleted article about her daughter. This info is already covered in other Hunter Biden articles and there really isn’t anything else here. Fails WP:BLP1E and is an obvious WP:COATRACK. O3000, Ret. ( talk) 16:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete "an American woman" is the lead? This is a smear article. Nothing at all notable here, she had a kid with someone famous. Oaktree b ( talk) 17:04, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - We usually don't have such bio pages, unless it involves royalty. GoodDay ( talk) 20:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Six citations for the claim that she is an "American woman" made me chuckle. An obvious WP:COATRACK that serves no other purpose. Agentdoge ( talk) 21:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete per above Andre 🚐 22:07, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to American WomanDelete for reasons explained by the nominator. XOR'easter ( talk) 22:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC)- Delete - As per WP:NOTINHERITED. Almost all sources refer to Hunter and her relationship with him. LibStar ( talk) 23:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Clear breach of BLP1E. WWGB ( talk) 02:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a disruptive BLP page creation IMHO, the page creator previously created an article about the daughter and has been made aware of BLP policy concerns during extended talk page discussions at Talk:Hunter Biden and Talk:Family of Joe Biden. I'd close this as snowball myself, but I closed the child's AfD as snow, so I'll allow fresh eyes to assess this discussion. BusterD ( talk) 04:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- 'Delete Fails WP:NPOV. Propaganda piece. Can't be called an article. scope_creep Talk 08:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Closing early for BLP vio and SNOW. Valereee ( talk) 19:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Lunden Roberts
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The three criteria of
WP:BLP1E are met, indicating that we generally should avoid having an article
on this person. (1) Reliable sources exist, but only cover her in the context of her involvement with Hunter Biden, (2) she otherwise is and likely will remain a low-profile individual, and (3) her association with Hunter Biden is not a significant event from an encyclopedic standpoint.
WP:BIO1E states the general rule is to cover the event, not the person
. I believe "the event" is sufficiently covered at
Hunter Biden#Relationships. –
Muboshgu (
talk)
15:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and United States of America. – Muboshgu ( talk) 15:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Subject is notable for one thing. Coatrack smear political narrative. SPECIFICO talk 15:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Notability WP:NOTINHERITED. Sources mostly about her daughter and relation to Joe and Hunter Biden. GNG not shown, and has less chance of showing notability than her daughter's quickly deleted article. WikiVirus C (talk) 15:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - This article is about child support litigation against the son of the US President masquerading as a biography. The lawyer for the woman, Clint Lancaster, also represented the Trump campaign, the main rival to the US President in the previous and next election. The woman is not known for anything otherwise. The creator of this article also created the now deleted article about her daughter. This info is already covered in other Hunter Biden articles and there really isn’t anything else here. Fails WP:BLP1E and is an obvious WP:COATRACK. O3000, Ret. ( talk) 16:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete "an American woman" is the lead? This is a smear article. Nothing at all notable here, she had a kid with someone famous. Oaktree b ( talk) 17:04, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - We usually don't have such bio pages, unless it involves royalty. GoodDay ( talk) 20:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Six citations for the claim that she is an "American woman" made me chuckle. An obvious WP:COATRACK that serves no other purpose. Agentdoge ( talk) 21:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete per above Andre 🚐 22:07, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to American WomanDelete for reasons explained by the nominator. XOR'easter ( talk) 22:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC)- Delete - As per WP:NOTINHERITED. Almost all sources refer to Hunter and her relationship with him. LibStar ( talk) 23:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Clear breach of BLP1E. WWGB ( talk) 02:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a disruptive BLP page creation IMHO, the page creator previously created an article about the daughter and has been made aware of BLP policy concerns during extended talk page discussions at Talk:Hunter Biden and Talk:Family of Joe Biden. I'd close this as snowball myself, but I closed the child's AfD as snow, so I'll allow fresh eyes to assess this discussion. BusterD ( talk) 04:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- 'Delete Fails WP:NPOV. Propaganda piece. Can't be called an article. scope_creep Talk 08:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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