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Weak keep I havnt participated in these for a while so excuse me if i buggar this up. I believe it bearly meets
WP:GNG and the coach has made sagnificant contributions to the Kickboxing, MMA and Boxing Communities in New Zealand, Tonga and Australia. However the article itself is extremely outdated and needs a really good facelift. --
Bennyaha (
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20:31, 27 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment All the references are in the list of students he's coached. There are plenty of coaches I could find with notable students that doesn't make them notable.
Nswix (
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01:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fails GNG.
[1] is a trivial quote by Heimuli, N.
[2] is entirely primary interview content, N.
[3] is non-independent non-RS from a kickboxing school, N.
[4] has two sentences on him, with the rest being either quotes or on one of his fighters, N.
[5] is non-RS that doesn't even mention him, N.
[6] is almost pure interview material in local media promoting his gym (the end literally gives the gym's address and his contact info), N.
[7] is non-independent, N.
[8] and
[9] are deadlinks, but from the refss are likely non-independent content from a sports body, N.
[10] doesn't mention him, N.
[11] I can't access, but seems to be an announcement in local media, ?.
[12] is his name in a list, N.
[13] is some trivial quotes by him, N.
[14] is a trivial mention, N.
[15] is a trivial mention in a quote, N.
[16] is dead, but from the citation is not independent, N.
[17] is a passing mention, N.
[18] is a trivial mention in a quote, N.
[19] ditto, N.
[20] is a trivial mention in a photo caption, N.
[21] is dead, but is likely routine fight coverage of someone other than Lollo, N.
[22] has basically no direct independent coverage, N.
[23] is the best of the lot, but is heavily reliant on quotes and primary content, N.
[24] is nothing, N.
[25] is a trivial mention, N.
[26] is entirely quotes from Heimuli, N.
[27] contains an ok amount of independent coverage, but appears to be from a defunct website with no evidence of reliability (no About Us or contact info), N.
[28] is entirely quotes by him save for one sentence, N.
JoelleJay (
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20:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete He's clearly has had some success as both a fighter and coach, but not enough to meet any SNG. I looked at most of the article's references and I agree with JoelleJay's assessment of the sources. I'm not seeing significant independent coverage of him that meets
WP:GNG.
Papaursa (
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21:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete: Promotional BLP with no SIGCOV from Ind RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. JoelleJay source assessment is accurate, keep voters above give provide no sources, just statements, no BEFORE. BLP article require clear and accurate sourcing for notability and content, this has neither. //
Timothy ::
talk14:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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Weak keep I havnt participated in these for a while so excuse me if i buggar this up. I believe it bearly meets
WP:GNG and the coach has made sagnificant contributions to the Kickboxing, MMA and Boxing Communities in New Zealand, Tonga and Australia. However the article itself is extremely outdated and needs a really good facelift. --
Bennyaha (
talk)
20:31, 27 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment All the references are in the list of students he's coached. There are plenty of coaches I could find with notable students that doesn't make them notable.
Nswix (
talk)
01:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fails GNG.
[1] is a trivial quote by Heimuli, N.
[2] is entirely primary interview content, N.
[3] is non-independent non-RS from a kickboxing school, N.
[4] has two sentences on him, with the rest being either quotes or on one of his fighters, N.
[5] is non-RS that doesn't even mention him, N.
[6] is almost pure interview material in local media promoting his gym (the end literally gives the gym's address and his contact info), N.
[7] is non-independent, N.
[8] and
[9] are deadlinks, but from the refss are likely non-independent content from a sports body, N.
[10] doesn't mention him, N.
[11] I can't access, but seems to be an announcement in local media, ?.
[12] is his name in a list, N.
[13] is some trivial quotes by him, N.
[14] is a trivial mention, N.
[15] is a trivial mention in a quote, N.
[16] is dead, but from the citation is not independent, N.
[17] is a passing mention, N.
[18] is a trivial mention in a quote, N.
[19] ditto, N.
[20] is a trivial mention in a photo caption, N.
[21] is dead, but is likely routine fight coverage of someone other than Lollo, N.
[22] has basically no direct independent coverage, N.
[23] is the best of the lot, but is heavily reliant on quotes and primary content, N.
[24] is nothing, N.
[25] is a trivial mention, N.
[26] is entirely quotes from Heimuli, N.
[27] contains an ok amount of independent coverage, but appears to be from a defunct website with no evidence of reliability (no About Us or contact info), N.
[28] is entirely quotes by him save for one sentence, N.
JoelleJay (
talk)
20:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete He's clearly has had some success as both a fighter and coach, but not enough to meet any SNG. I looked at most of the article's references and I agree with JoelleJay's assessment of the sources. I'm not seeing significant independent coverage of him that meets
WP:GNG.
Papaursa (
talk)
21:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete: Promotional BLP with no SIGCOV from Ind RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. JoelleJay source assessment is accurate, keep voters above give provide no sources, just statements, no BEFORE. BLP article require clear and accurate sourcing for notability and content, this has neither. //
Timothy ::
talk14:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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