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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Liz Winfield
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BLP of a subject who does not pass WP:AUTHOR. Mccapra ( talk) 22:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources.
- "Liz Winfield (64 works by) (a.k.a. Elizabeth Winfield)". AustLit. 2008-06-04. Archived from the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
- Bantick, Christopher (2003-03-30).
"A Place in the Dark".
Sunday Tasmanian. Archived from
the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
The article notes, "Around the Hobart poetry traps, Liz Winfield is well known. She is a performance poet and a pensive, meditative writer. Her new and outstanding poetry collection Too Much Happens is her first solo collection."
- Bantick, Christopher (2006-11-12).
"Poems' intimate relationships".
Sunday Tasmanian. Archived from
the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
The article notes, "Liz Winfield is a poet of many guises. Her new chapbook, Catalogue of Love, is a collection as intensely personal as a postcard of intimacies whilst maintaining broad-based appeal."
- Pierce, Peter (2003-06-14).
"New poetry".
The Sydney Morning Herald. Archived from
the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
The article notes, "Tasmanian Liz Winfield's first book of verse, Too Much Happens, begins with a poem called Warning in which she advises that "I am a confessional poet". ... Winfield writes tight, jaunty poems that court mawkishness, but only occasionally (as in Love Song) succumb to it."
- Bantick, Christopher (2006-02-12). "Winfield's inspiring farewell". Sunday Tasmanian. Archived from the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
- Comment Thanks for finding these. 1. Is a database entry so I’m not sure it helps with notability. 2,3 and 5 are by the same author in the same regional press so while that carries some weight I’m not sure how much. 4 is good but brief. All this may amount to a GNG pass but I’ll wait and see what others think. Mccapra ( talk) 11:08, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- AustLit says, "AustLit is an encyclopaedia of Australian writers and writing" and https://www.austlit.edu.au/about says, "AustLit is brought to you by The University of Queensland in collaboration with academic, library, education and research organisations", so I consider its entry about Liz Winfield to be an encyclopaedia entry that contributes to notability. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability." I think there is enough combined material about Winfield to establish notability, but I agree with your analysis that the subject is borderline notable. Cunard ( talk) 11:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep because of the sources identified by Cunard. pburka ( talk) 14:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I think Cunrads arguments are good and she may also meet notability with having won an award. Expertwikiguy ( talk) 19:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Cunard. I also note that a database search of Australian and NZ newspapers revealed many (12+) articles, although most were in the Sunday Tasmanian (regional paper) by the same author (Christopher Bantick), as noted by Mccapra. On balance I would keep the page and feel it passes GNG, and to help I will try to add appropriate refs. Cabrils ( talk) 21:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Liz Winfield
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BLP of a subject who does not pass WP:AUTHOR. Mccapra ( talk) 22:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources.
- "Liz Winfield (64 works by) (a.k.a. Elizabeth Winfield)". AustLit. 2008-06-04. Archived from the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
- Bantick, Christopher (2003-03-30).
"A Place in the Dark".
Sunday Tasmanian. Archived from
the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
The article notes, "Around the Hobart poetry traps, Liz Winfield is well known. She is a performance poet and a pensive, meditative writer. Her new and outstanding poetry collection Too Much Happens is her first solo collection."
- Bantick, Christopher (2006-11-12).
"Poems' intimate relationships".
Sunday Tasmanian. Archived from
the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
The article notes, "Liz Winfield is a poet of many guises. Her new chapbook, Catalogue of Love, is a collection as intensely personal as a postcard of intimacies whilst maintaining broad-based appeal."
- Pierce, Peter (2003-06-14).
"New poetry".
The Sydney Morning Herald. Archived from
the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
The article notes, "Tasmanian Liz Winfield's first book of verse, Too Much Happens, begins with a poem called Warning in which she advises that "I am a confessional poet". ... Winfield writes tight, jaunty poems that court mawkishness, but only occasionally (as in Love Song) succumb to it."
- Bantick, Christopher (2006-02-12). "Winfield's inspiring farewell". Sunday Tasmanian. Archived from the original on 2021-01-25. Retrieved 2021-01-25.
- Comment Thanks for finding these. 1. Is a database entry so I’m not sure it helps with notability. 2,3 and 5 are by the same author in the same regional press so while that carries some weight I’m not sure how much. 4 is good but brief. All this may amount to a GNG pass but I’ll wait and see what others think. Mccapra ( talk) 11:08, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- AustLit says, "AustLit is an encyclopaedia of Australian writers and writing" and https://www.austlit.edu.au/about says, "AustLit is brought to you by The University of Queensland in collaboration with academic, library, education and research organisations", so I consider its entry about Liz Winfield to be an encyclopaedia entry that contributes to notability. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability." I think there is enough combined material about Winfield to establish notability, but I agree with your analysis that the subject is borderline notable. Cunard ( talk) 11:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep because of the sources identified by Cunard. pburka ( talk) 14:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I think Cunrads arguments are good and she may also meet notability with having won an award. Expertwikiguy ( talk) 19:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Cunard. I also note that a database search of Australian and NZ newspapers revealed many (12+) articles, although most were in the Sunday Tasmanian (regional paper) by the same author (Christopher Bantick), as noted by Mccapra. On balance I would keep the page and feel it passes GNG, and to help I will try to add appropriate refs. Cabrils ( talk) 21:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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