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The result was keep. Consensus after two relists appears to be in favor of keeping the article on the strength of the sources provided during discussion. clpo13( talk) 20:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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Needs evidence of meeting WP:MUSICBIO: There are hints of notability from what links here, but the article is the kind of self-conscious promo bio that usually indicates someone trying a lot harder on Wikipedia than a notable performer needs to. Closeapple ( talk) 11:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete per my own nomination: The article, rather than establishing the requirements of WP:MUSICBIO, is instead an illiterate mess of a promotion, complete with all-caps names and WP:PUFFERY of various associations with greatness, and wikilinks to the wrong things. Unsurprisingly, this performer had an album coming out when the article was written (2014), and had a first band album coming out exactly when the article was doubled (2017). However, there are some hints that Liv Warfield might be notable: Warfield seems to have received nominations for various urban-music-specific awards (one of 6 nominated for the 2014 Soul Train Music Award for Best New Artist, 5 nominated for BET Awards 2014 Centric Award, 5 nominated for the 2015 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding New Artist). She was the musical guest on an episode of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. So if someone can find significant reliable, independent coverage (i.e. not placed by labels/managers/promoters), good for them. But other than the Wikipedia links, I'm not even going to bother searching this time, because this is yet another of those WP:COI "contributions" that Kobalt Music Group seems to have inflicted on Wikipedia from time to time. For the record: Iloveartists2 ( talk · contribs) created this 2014-03-24 with 2200 bytes of spam; 2606:6000:668e:6100:1938:59c0:8bb5:8d99 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) added 1001 bytes of spam, with all-caps band name "Roadcase Royale" and name of their single in bold text externally linked inline, on 2017-04-27. -- Closeapple ( talk) 12:09, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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- delete I don't see significant independent coverage to meet the GNG or anything that shows she meets WP:MUSICBIO. The closest thing to notability I see is a connection to Nancy Wilson and an attempt to be linked with Prince, but notability is not inherited. Sandals1 ( talk) 18:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Seeems to be plenty of coverage around, enough of it significant, e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], and performing on the Late Show [11] is a pretty big deal. -- Michig ( talk) 12:53, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs assesment of the sources Michig posted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:52, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Needs assesment of the sources Michig posted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:52, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom as non-notable. The intent of the article seems wholly promotional to me. -- Lockley ( talk) 17:38, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There is plenty of coverage, as found by Michig, including some that are individually significant coverage and all of which adds up to SIGCOV. She definitely meets WP:GNG. The article could be edited for encyclopaedic tone and to remove unnecessary detail, but that is a matter of improvement, not a reason for deletion. RebeccaGreen ( talk) 07:18, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 15:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 15:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I've done some expansion and cleanup and note that not only did she tour with Prince for 5 years, she's also interviewed jointly with Nancy Wilson about the new band, and is opening for Bob Seger on select tour dates. LovelyLillith ( talk) 04:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus after two relists appears to be in favor of keeping the article on the strength of the sources provided during discussion. clpo13( talk) 20:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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Needs evidence of meeting WP:MUSICBIO: There are hints of notability from what links here, but the article is the kind of self-conscious promo bio that usually indicates someone trying a lot harder on Wikipedia than a notable performer needs to. Closeapple ( talk) 11:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Closeapple ( talk) 12:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Closeapple ( talk) 12:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Closeapple ( talk) 12:06, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per my own nomination: The article, rather than establishing the requirements of WP:MUSICBIO, is instead an illiterate mess of a promotion, complete with all-caps names and WP:PUFFERY of various associations with greatness, and wikilinks to the wrong things. Unsurprisingly, this performer had an album coming out when the article was written (2014), and had a first band album coming out exactly when the article was doubled (2017). However, there are some hints that Liv Warfield might be notable: Warfield seems to have received nominations for various urban-music-specific awards (one of 6 nominated for the 2014 Soul Train Music Award for Best New Artist, 5 nominated for BET Awards 2014 Centric Award, 5 nominated for the 2015 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding New Artist). She was the musical guest on an episode of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. So if someone can find significant reliable, independent coverage (i.e. not placed by labels/managers/promoters), good for them. But other than the Wikipedia links, I'm not even going to bother searching this time, because this is yet another of those WP:COI "contributions" that Kobalt Music Group seems to have inflicted on Wikipedia from time to time. For the record: Iloveartists2 ( talk · contribs) created this 2014-03-24 with 2200 bytes of spam; 2606:6000:668e:6100:1938:59c0:8bb5:8d99 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) added 1001 bytes of spam, with all-caps band name "Roadcase Royale" and name of their single in bold text externally linked inline, on 2017-04-27. -- Closeapple ( talk) 12:09, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 22:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- delete I don't see significant independent coverage to meet the GNG or anything that shows she meets WP:MUSICBIO. The closest thing to notability I see is a connection to Nancy Wilson and an attempt to be linked with Prince, but notability is not inherited. Sandals1 ( talk) 18:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Seeems to be plenty of coverage around, enough of it significant, e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], and performing on the Late Show [11] is a pretty big deal. -- Michig ( talk) 12:53, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs assesment of the sources Michig posted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:52, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Needs assesment of the sources Michig posted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:52, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom as non-notable. The intent of the article seems wholly promotional to me. -- Lockley ( talk) 17:38, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There is plenty of coverage, as found by Michig, including some that are individually significant coverage and all of which adds up to SIGCOV. She definitely meets WP:GNG. The article could be edited for encyclopaedic tone and to remove unnecessary detail, but that is a matter of improvement, not a reason for deletion. RebeccaGreen ( talk) 07:18, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 15:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 15:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I've done some expansion and cleanup and note that not only did she tour with Prince for 5 years, she's also interviewed jointly with Nancy Wilson about the new band, and is opening for Bob Seger on select tour dates. LovelyLillith ( talk) 04:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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