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The result was delete.
✗plicit 12:12, 2 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Yet another boilerplate unsourced, unused, unmaintained "list of people on the postage stamps of X". Clearly missing information, incomplete as can be, and absent any references whatsoever. Deprodded because
The list is reliably sourced, and people can easily check the information against the source
Keep Flawed nomination. The source, the
Scott Catalogue, is given in the references section. Myself, I prefer
inline citations but Wikipedia accepts
general references. I also prefer full citations (year, volume, edition, publisher, page), but it is extraordinarily rare for Scott to add or remove a design more than a year or two after issue, so any edition after about 2009 could be used to verify a list of designs through 2007. Which exact edition one uses to verify the information really isn't important, certainly not so much so as to justify deleting the article. Indeed, the content could be verified equally well through any similar source, such as
Stanley Gibbons catalogue or
Michel catalog. As for "
unused" and "
unmaintained", these are classic
arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. --
Worldbruce (
talk) 11:41, 26 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Do you wish to strike your bogus deletion rationale and pursue a
WP:SALAT line of argument instead? I would be happy to discuss that. --
Worldbruce (
talk) 12:56, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Whoa dude, that's like totally bogus, man. Your argument is like, totally tubular, dude. Rock on. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 15:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Neutrally asking editors who've participated in similar discussions is not the same thing as canvassing. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 15:13, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete This is not an appropriate topic for a list. We would need multiple sources to pass GNG. Do we really believe in the last 15 years there have been no new people pictured on postage stamps? Why is this more important than
List of animals on the postage stamps of Bangladesh or
List of buildings on the postage stamps of Bangladesh. At best we might redirect this to
Postage stamps and postal history of Bangladesh, although even that name overemphasies the less important matter of stamps over the more important matter of postal operations. There are countries that had postal servicces for over a century without stamps, you do not need stamps to run a postal service, and on the other extreme a few places (like San Marino) mainly have stamps for tourist revenue and not actual postal purposes.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 13:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment One catalogue listing is not enough to pass GNG, especially for lists that we need to show as a topic are considered by reliable sources. This is especially true since in the case of
List of people on the postage stamps of South Korea we were shown that that catalgue has downright jibberis listing as an apparent name what is actually part of a title.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 17:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete, like all these lists of people on stamps of xyz, we don't have a need, they are all unmaintained and probably unmaintainable.
Jacona (
talk) 14:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. This is something for another kind of project, outside of Wikipedia.
BD2412T 21:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment If we do want to keep these lists in any form in any location, we should reorder them to list by year, not alphabetically. If there is any encyclopedic value to such a listing, it is to show the changes over time in decisions on who to portray in stamps.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 13:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete.
✗plicit 12:12, 2 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Yet another boilerplate unsourced, unused, unmaintained "list of people on the postage stamps of X". Clearly missing information, incomplete as can be, and absent any references whatsoever. Deprodded because
The list is reliably sourced, and people can easily check the information against the source
Keep Flawed nomination. The source, the
Scott Catalogue, is given in the references section. Myself, I prefer
inline citations but Wikipedia accepts
general references. I also prefer full citations (year, volume, edition, publisher, page), but it is extraordinarily rare for Scott to add or remove a design more than a year or two after issue, so any edition after about 2009 could be used to verify a list of designs through 2007. Which exact edition one uses to verify the information really isn't important, certainly not so much so as to justify deleting the article. Indeed, the content could be verified equally well through any similar source, such as
Stanley Gibbons catalogue or
Michel catalog. As for "
unused" and "
unmaintained", these are classic
arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. --
Worldbruce (
talk) 11:41, 26 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Do you wish to strike your bogus deletion rationale and pursue a
WP:SALAT line of argument instead? I would be happy to discuss that. --
Worldbruce (
talk) 12:56, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Whoa dude, that's like totally bogus, man. Your argument is like, totally tubular, dude. Rock on. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 15:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Neutrally asking editors who've participated in similar discussions is not the same thing as canvassing. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 15:13, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete This is not an appropriate topic for a list. We would need multiple sources to pass GNG. Do we really believe in the last 15 years there have been no new people pictured on postage stamps? Why is this more important than
List of animals on the postage stamps of Bangladesh or
List of buildings on the postage stamps of Bangladesh. At best we might redirect this to
Postage stamps and postal history of Bangladesh, although even that name overemphasies the less important matter of stamps over the more important matter of postal operations. There are countries that had postal servicces for over a century without stamps, you do not need stamps to run a postal service, and on the other extreme a few places (like San Marino) mainly have stamps for tourist revenue and not actual postal purposes.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 13:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment One catalogue listing is not enough to pass GNG, especially for lists that we need to show as a topic are considered by reliable sources. This is especially true since in the case of
List of people on the postage stamps of South Korea we were shown that that catalgue has downright jibberis listing as an apparent name what is actually part of a title.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 17:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete, like all these lists of people on stamps of xyz, we don't have a need, they are all unmaintained and probably unmaintainable.
Jacona (
talk) 14:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. This is something for another kind of project, outside of Wikipedia.
BD2412T 21:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment If we do want to keep these lists in any form in any location, we should reorder them to list by year, not alphabetically. If there is any encyclopedic value to such a listing, it is to show the changes over time in decisions on who to portray in stamps.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 13:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.