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The result was merge to Tillakaratne Dilshan. Spartaz Humbug! 18:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
List of international cricket centuries by Tillakaratne Dilshan
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Fails WP:NLIST. No source discusses his centuries as a group. The consensus is that such lists are not required. Störm (talk) 06:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge to Tillakaratne Dilshan. Lists of international centuries are, by definition, notable achievements and detailing significant numbers in prose alone is cumbersome and impairs readability, so tables are the way to go. These lists have the necessary context and explanation so do not fail NOTSTATS. Having said that, there are no issues with inclusion in the main subject article, per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:SPLIT, so a merge would be appropriate. wjemather please leave a message... 09:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete with the option of some prose and, possibly, a much cut down summary version of these tables added to the player's page. We don't need to be clogging up biographies with massively complex tables of statistics when we could summarise - and perhaps usefully use a table at that time. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 17:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per
WP:NOTSTATS/
WP:RAWDATA.
"To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources."
This article is just a list of scores from ESPNCricinfo and has no independent sources covering these individual achievements as a set. Agree with nom that there should be no precedent to include these on players' articles. Ajf773 ( talk) 08:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC) - Note to AFD closer recent afds were closed as Merge - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Faf du Plessis (2nd nomination); Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Marvan Atapattu; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Cheteshwar Pujara, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Hussey; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Desmond Haynes; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Colin Cowdrey; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Martin Crowe; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Wally Hammond; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Justin Langer Davidstewartharvey ( talk) 10:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The following also resulted in DELETE: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Mushfiqur Rahim, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Upul Tharanga and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Shakib Al Hasan while these following articles resulted in redirection to player's article: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Atherton, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Tom Latham, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Dinesh Chandimal. With all of these lists of centuries or five-wicket hauls for players we are getting mixed outcomes. Admin needs to allow greater discussions (longer than a week) on all AfD's without resulting to arbitrary outcomes. Ajf773 ( talk) 08:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Need more votes for possibly a clear result here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HawkAussie ( talk) 03:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Need more votes for possibly a clear result here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HawkAussie ( talk) 03:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge Fails WP:NLIST. Can be better merged into the main article about the subject. Zakaria ښه راغلاست ( talk) 02:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per those above. BD2412 T 06:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per AJF773 ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 23:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 ( talk) 18:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 ( talk) 18:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:NOTSTATS; we're not Cricinfo, and users wanting to get this non-encyclopedic information ought to go there instead, since 1) it's always up to date; 2) it's free from vandalism; 3) it's the usual source for this anyway. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge - per above and per WP:ATD - if there's an appropriate page to merge, it must be selected over deletion. In this case there is. Deus et lex ( talk) 01:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Except keeping this as a redirect opens up a
pandora box because people will expect it to be made into an actual list, or for this kind of thing to exist for other players; which it simply shouldn't.
RandomCanadian (
talk /
contribs) 04:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's nonsense. Firstly, no one is saying the material shouldn't be merged into the article in a way that isn't inappropriate. A list of centuries is contained and discrete and can be put in the article (which is mostly text-based) in a way that works. The way in which that is happening is not being determined here, the question is simply whether a merge is appropriate, which it is. And let's not raise a "floodgates" argument - let's stick to THIS AfD about the one cricket player. Deus et lex ( talk) 07:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Except keeping this as a redirect opens up a
pandora box because people will expect it to be made into an actual list, or for this kind of thing to exist for other players; which it simply shouldn't.
RandomCanadian (
talk /
contribs) 04:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to the player's page - there's a possible WP:SPLIT as well with his other honours, but this is too specific of a topic to keep straight up. SportingFlyer T· C 18:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Tillakaratne Dilshan. Spartaz Humbug! 18:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
List of international cricket centuries by Tillakaratne Dilshan
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- List of international cricket centuries by Tillakaratne Dilshan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Fails WP:NLIST. No source discusses his centuries as a group. The consensus is that such lists are not required. Störm (talk) 06:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge to Tillakaratne Dilshan. Lists of international centuries are, by definition, notable achievements and detailing significant numbers in prose alone is cumbersome and impairs readability, so tables are the way to go. These lists have the necessary context and explanation so do not fail NOTSTATS. Having said that, there are no issues with inclusion in the main subject article, per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:SPLIT, so a merge would be appropriate. wjemather please leave a message... 09:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete with the option of some prose and, possibly, a much cut down summary version of these tables added to the player's page. We don't need to be clogging up biographies with massively complex tables of statistics when we could summarise - and perhaps usefully use a table at that time. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 17:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per
WP:NOTSTATS/
WP:RAWDATA.
"To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources."
This article is just a list of scores from ESPNCricinfo and has no independent sources covering these individual achievements as a set. Agree with nom that there should be no precedent to include these on players' articles. Ajf773 ( talk) 08:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC) - Note to AFD closer recent afds were closed as Merge - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Faf du Plessis (2nd nomination); Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Marvan Atapattu; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Cheteshwar Pujara, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Hussey; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Desmond Haynes; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Colin Cowdrey; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Martin Crowe; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Wally Hammond; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Justin Langer Davidstewartharvey ( talk) 10:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The following also resulted in DELETE: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Mushfiqur Rahim, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Upul Tharanga and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Shakib Al Hasan while these following articles resulted in redirection to player's article: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Atherton, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Tom Latham, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Dinesh Chandimal. With all of these lists of centuries or five-wicket hauls for players we are getting mixed outcomes. Admin needs to allow greater discussions (longer than a week) on all AfD's without resulting to arbitrary outcomes. Ajf773 ( talk) 08:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Need more votes for possibly a clear result here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HawkAussie ( talk) 03:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Need more votes for possibly a clear result here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HawkAussie ( talk) 03:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge Fails WP:NLIST. Can be better merged into the main article about the subject. Zakaria ښه راغلاست ( talk) 02:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per those above. BD2412 T 06:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per AJF773 ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 23:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 ( talk) 18:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 ( talk) 18:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:NOTSTATS; we're not Cricinfo, and users wanting to get this non-encyclopedic information ought to go there instead, since 1) it's always up to date; 2) it's free from vandalism; 3) it's the usual source for this anyway. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge - per above and per WP:ATD - if there's an appropriate page to merge, it must be selected over deletion. In this case there is. Deus et lex ( talk) 01:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Except keeping this as a redirect opens up a
pandora box because people will expect it to be made into an actual list, or for this kind of thing to exist for other players; which it simply shouldn't.
RandomCanadian (
talk /
contribs) 04:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's nonsense. Firstly, no one is saying the material shouldn't be merged into the article in a way that isn't inappropriate. A list of centuries is contained and discrete and can be put in the article (which is mostly text-based) in a way that works. The way in which that is happening is not being determined here, the question is simply whether a merge is appropriate, which it is. And let's not raise a "floodgates" argument - let's stick to THIS AfD about the one cricket player. Deus et lex ( talk) 07:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Except keeping this as a redirect opens up a
pandora box because people will expect it to be made into an actual list, or for this kind of thing to exist for other players; which it simply shouldn't.
RandomCanadian (
talk /
contribs) 04:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to the player's page - there's a possible WP:SPLIT as well with his other honours, but this is too specific of a topic to keep straight up. SportingFlyer T· C 18:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.