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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) — Matthew - ( talk) 17:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
List of films: A
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This, and the other lists of films indexed by first alphabetical letter in their titles, appear to be indiscriminate in nature. Inclusion of films in these lists appears to be self-evident, based on the films' titles, rather than being based on reliable sources with inline citations for each item. See WP:LISTCRIT. — Matthew - ( talk) 16:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. ~ Amkgp 💬 16:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. ~ Amkgp 💬 16:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons:
- List of films: numbers ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: B ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: C ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: D ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: E ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: F ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: G ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: H ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: I ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: J–K ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: L ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: M ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: N–O ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: P ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: Q–R ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: S ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: T ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: U–W ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: X–Z ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Izno ( talk) 16:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- I honestly don't understand this nomination at all. It seems to be claiming that alphabetizing is contrary to policy. postdlf ( talk) 16:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @ Postdlf: I'm claiming that lists of films by alphabetical order do seem contrary to established guidelines (see WP:LISTCRIT), as they appear to be indiscriminate and not based on reliable sources. — Matthew - ( talk) 16:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Repeating your claim is not making it more clear or compelling. Would not the film itself be the most reliable source for its own title? Or are you suggesting that we need a second source, like "according to Roger Ebert, the title of Citizen Kane is Citizen Kane"? postdlf ( talk) 17:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Why do we even need inline citations for these kinds of lists? Its common sense. Java Hurricane 16:45, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
JavaHurricane: See
WP:LISTCRIT. Why do we even need these kinds of lists at all,
especially given that categories can essentially accomplish the same thing? — Matthew - ( talk) 16:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)- MatthewHoobin, common sense before LISTN. There's no reason why this should even be deleted. Java Hurricane 16:59, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- JavaHurricane: The reason I am proposing that they be deleted is because they appear to violate existing guidelines. According to WP:COMMONSENSE, "even if a contribution 'violates' the precise wording of a rule, it might still be a good contribution." Can you demonstrate why these articles should be considered "good" contributions to Wikipedia? Do you have any reasons why they should not be deleted, aside from... just because? — Matthew - ( talk) 17:10, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NOTDUP. But maybe you want to have a go at categories too since they automatically alphabetize. postdlf ( talk) 17:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
JavaHurricane: See
WP:LISTCRIT. Why do we even need these kinds of lists at all,
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) — Matthew - ( talk) 17:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
List of films: A
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This, and the other lists of films indexed by first alphabetical letter in their titles, appear to be indiscriminate in nature. Inclusion of films in these lists appears to be self-evident, based on the films' titles, rather than being based on reliable sources with inline citations for each item. See WP:LISTCRIT. — Matthew - ( talk) 16:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. ~ Amkgp 💬 16:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. ~ Amkgp 💬 16:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons:
- List of films: numbers ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: B ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: C ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: D ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: E ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: F ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: G ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: H ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: I ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: J–K ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: L ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: M ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: N–O ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: P ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: Q–R ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: S ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: T ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: U–W ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of films: X–Z ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Izno ( talk) 16:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- I honestly don't understand this nomination at all. It seems to be claiming that alphabetizing is contrary to policy. postdlf ( talk) 16:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @ Postdlf: I'm claiming that lists of films by alphabetical order do seem contrary to established guidelines (see WP:LISTCRIT), as they appear to be indiscriminate and not based on reliable sources. — Matthew - ( talk) 16:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Repeating your claim is not making it more clear or compelling. Would not the film itself be the most reliable source for its own title? Or are you suggesting that we need a second source, like "according to Roger Ebert, the title of Citizen Kane is Citizen Kane"? postdlf ( talk) 17:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Why do we even need inline citations for these kinds of lists? Its common sense. Java Hurricane 16:45, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
JavaHurricane: See
WP:LISTCRIT. Why do we even need these kinds of lists at all,
especially given that categories can essentially accomplish the same thing? — Matthew - ( talk) 16:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)- MatthewHoobin, common sense before LISTN. There's no reason why this should even be deleted. Java Hurricane 16:59, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- JavaHurricane: The reason I am proposing that they be deleted is because they appear to violate existing guidelines. According to WP:COMMONSENSE, "even if a contribution 'violates' the precise wording of a rule, it might still be a good contribution." Can you demonstrate why these articles should be considered "good" contributions to Wikipedia? Do you have any reasons why they should not be deleted, aside from... just because? — Matthew - ( talk) 17:10, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NOTDUP. But maybe you want to have a go at categories too since they automatically alphabetize. postdlf ( talk) 17:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @
JavaHurricane: See
WP:LISTCRIT. Why do we even need these kinds of lists at all,
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.