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The result was keep. Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:41, 16 April 2023 (UTC) reply

List of electoral wards in Greater London

List of electoral wards in Greater London (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Not a particularly useful list of lists. The lists for each local authority would be more appropriate on the local elections article for their respective local authorities, e.g. the list of wards in Barking and Dagenham should be included instead on Barking and Dagenham London Borough Council elections. These articles currently lack key topics, and the lists of wards are long and unwieldy without including any insight.  dummelaksen  ( talkcontribs) 15:44, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the lists for the other ceremonial counties of England (except Wards of the City of London) for the same reason:

List of electoral divisions and wards in Cornwall (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral divisions and wards in Wiltshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral divisions in the Isle of Wight (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Bedfordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Berkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Bristol (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Buckinghamshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Cambridgeshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Cheshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in County Durham (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Cumbria (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Derbyshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Devon (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Dorset (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in East Riding of Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in East Sussex (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Essex (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Gloucestershire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Greater Manchester (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Hampshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Herefordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Hertfordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Kent (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Lancashire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Leicestershire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Lincolnshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Merseyside (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Norfolk (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in North Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Northamptonshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Northumberland (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Nottinghamshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Oxfordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Rutland (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Shropshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Somerset (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in South Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Staffordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Suffolk (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Surrey (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Tyne and Wear (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Warwickshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in the West Midlands (county) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in West Sussex (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in West Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Worcestershire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)  dummelaksen  ( talkcontribs) 16:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics, Lists, and United Kingdom. Shellwood ( talk) 15:59, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I’m not sure there is a strong deletion rationale here, and to delete in such a scale I’d want to be persuaded there was something fundamentally wrong with these articles. If nothing else these lists are useful for tracking changes to both constituencies and the local authorities they fall within iver time. I’m open to persuasion if I’ve missed something of course. Mccapra ( talk) 17:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Mccapra: I'm in favour of keeping the actual content of the articles, but I don't think this is the right way to present it: district wards have very little to do with the ceremonial counties they're in, or with the wards in other districts in the same county. I agree, it is useful for keeping track of changes to the local authorities they're in, but in that case, they would be more effective in that regard – and easier to find – in articles about those authorities.  dummelaksen  ( talkcontribs) 17:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
ok well I’m not sure whether AfD is the best place to discuss that proposal. Mccapra ( talk) 20:12, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - This is a whole lot of info to be proposing to delete and I'm not hugely convinced that putting it into the elections article for each council will work well. With Cornwall, the council has already gone through three different sets of ward maps since 2009 and I think just lumping them (plus future wards) at the end of the Cornwall Council elections page will make it ungainly. In any case, this is so many different articles with so many different things to think about that deleting them all at once would do much more harm than good IMO. Gazamp ( talk) 02:07, 10 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The number of wards, both concurrently and over time, means that very quickly they will need to be split out from the elections pages for size and comprehension reasons so we'd be right back here. I might support a split of List of electoral wards in Greater London to separate lists per borough, but that's not an AfD matter. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all This is the sort of thing that belongs on the respective council articles or relevant election pages, not grouped for each county. Reywas92 Talk 04:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:10, 11 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep listing at ceremonial county is probably most useful. Articles appear to have sufficient sources and wards are likely notable. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 15:58, 11 April 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:41, 16 April 2023 (UTC) reply

List of electoral wards in Greater London

List of electoral wards in Greater London (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Not a particularly useful list of lists. The lists for each local authority would be more appropriate on the local elections article for their respective local authorities, e.g. the list of wards in Barking and Dagenham should be included instead on Barking and Dagenham London Borough Council elections. These articles currently lack key topics, and the lists of wards are long and unwieldy without including any insight.  dummelaksen  ( talkcontribs) 15:44, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the lists for the other ceremonial counties of England (except Wards of the City of London) for the same reason:

List of electoral divisions and wards in Cornwall (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral divisions and wards in Wiltshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral divisions in the Isle of Wight (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Bedfordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Berkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Bristol (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Buckinghamshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Cambridgeshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Cheshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in County Durham (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Cumbria (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Derbyshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Devon (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Dorset (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in East Riding of Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in East Sussex (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Essex (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Gloucestershire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Greater Manchester (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Hampshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Herefordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Hertfordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Kent (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Lancashire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Leicestershire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Lincolnshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Merseyside (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Norfolk (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in North Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Northamptonshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Northumberland (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Nottinghamshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Oxfordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Rutland (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Shropshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Somerset (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in South Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Staffordshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Suffolk (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Surrey (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Tyne and Wear (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Warwickshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in the West Midlands (county) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in West Sussex (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in West Yorkshire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of electoral wards in Worcestershire (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)  dummelaksen  ( talkcontribs) 16:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics, Lists, and United Kingdom. Shellwood ( talk) 15:59, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I’m not sure there is a strong deletion rationale here, and to delete in such a scale I’d want to be persuaded there was something fundamentally wrong with these articles. If nothing else these lists are useful for tracking changes to both constituencies and the local authorities they fall within iver time. I’m open to persuasion if I’ve missed something of course. Mccapra ( talk) 17:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Mccapra: I'm in favour of keeping the actual content of the articles, but I don't think this is the right way to present it: district wards have very little to do with the ceremonial counties they're in, or with the wards in other districts in the same county. I agree, it is useful for keeping track of changes to the local authorities they're in, but in that case, they would be more effective in that regard – and easier to find – in articles about those authorities.  dummelaksen  ( talkcontribs) 17:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
ok well I’m not sure whether AfD is the best place to discuss that proposal. Mccapra ( talk) 20:12, 9 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - This is a whole lot of info to be proposing to delete and I'm not hugely convinced that putting it into the elections article for each council will work well. With Cornwall, the council has already gone through three different sets of ward maps since 2009 and I think just lumping them (plus future wards) at the end of the Cornwall Council elections page will make it ungainly. In any case, this is so many different articles with so many different things to think about that deleting them all at once would do much more harm than good IMO. Gazamp ( talk) 02:07, 10 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The number of wards, both concurrently and over time, means that very quickly they will need to be split out from the elections pages for size and comprehension reasons so we'd be right back here. I might support a split of List of electoral wards in Greater London to separate lists per borough, but that's not an AfD matter. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all This is the sort of thing that belongs on the respective council articles or relevant election pages, not grouped for each county. Reywas92 Talk 04:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:10, 11 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep listing at ceremonial county is probably most useful. Articles appear to have sufficient sources and wards are likely notable. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 15:58, 11 April 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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