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The result was merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections. This seems to be the preferred Merge target article. XFDCloser just allows for one Merge target but of course, content can be used in other articles as long as attribution is provided. Liz Read! Talk! 03:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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No concensus for fork, can be covered sufficiently at List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections Esolo5002 ( talk) 03:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: A content fork is a "piece of content [...] that has the same scope as another piece of content". This article is clearly a much narrower scope, and offers additional information in a concise format. Additionally, the list of all speaker elections is of enormous length already and inflating its size is not warranted, per WP:LENGTH. It also meets the criteria for stand-alone lists. [1] Hypnôs ( talk) 03:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Politics, Lists, and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- (update) Merge Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections, now that a good target has been found. (original) Keep. In addition to above, also meets WP:LISTPURP as an informational list. — siro χ o 04:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep it's true that this is a fork, but due its narrow scope, it meets the criteria of WP:NLIST. With the notability of the current speaker elections once again not meeting the first vote threshold, it is also notable again. Conyo14 ( talk) 05:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge No need for a separate page. This table is of modest size and WP:LENGTH refers to prose size. Reywas92 Talk 13:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge There is no need for a stand-alone list article. Though formatted differently, this article is a content fork. The table could also be easily merged into
Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections.
Drdpw (
talk)
15:18, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think that's probably a better merge target than the big list. — siro χ o 16:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections. As others have said, this is a content fork and there is no objection to the content of the list. -- Enos733 ( talk) 20:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections per Reywas92 and Drdpw. Sal2100 ( talk) 21:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge - Yeah, no clue why this is a separate article, should be merged immediately. Geko72290 ( talk) 21:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to either List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections or Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections. I personally prefer the former and think the table could reasonably be included there (maybe with a few columns trimmed). If this page is kept, it should be moved to List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections decided by multiple ballots for naming consistency. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 01:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Move to and merge with both by using
WP:TRANS and retaining the table format used in the current page.
- List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections under a new Heading, "Elections with Multiple Ballots."
- Speaker of the United States House of Representatives under new Sub-heading 1, "Elections with Multiple Ballots" within the existing Heading, " Notable elections."
- I strongly suggest retaining the current table format as it allows one to quickly compare them. I think it should be moved to one of the page and included in other using Transclusion, if it decided against keeping as separate page 2861969nyc ( talk) 21:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections per everyone else. Corgi Stays ( talk) 01:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with both using WP:TRANS as above. Not sure which page it should be moved to and which should use transclusion. However, I will say that having this as a separate page has proved useful to me by being available in ″see also″ sections. NHammen ( talk) 12:54, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with both (transclusion) per above. This is a useful list and belongs on both pages if not its standalone article. Davey2116 ( talk) 15:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections as proposed by others. I also actually object to the inclusion of the current Speaker election on this list, and given that this list seems to have been created in response to the current election, question the need for a separate list. The reason is that, so far, the current speaker election does not qualify for inclusion on this list. It has gone multiple ballots, but it has not been decided yet, and therefore does not belong on a list of decided elections. It remains entirely possible that the current election will never be decided, and some other solution--like giving McHenry some additional powers without formally electing him speaker or formally resolving the election--may be adopted. So I favor a merge, but if we keep the list as is, the current election does not belong on this list until it has been decided, which it has not as yet. Dash77 ( talk) 17:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge. Terrific table to have. Just does not need to be its own standalone page. SecretName101 ( talk) 05:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to both with bias toward deletion if merge is unsuccessful. This does not pass WP:NLIST and is (contrary to opinion above) clearly a WP:CONTENTFORK. You don't have to replicate the entire scope to duplicate existing articles' coverage. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 14:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections. This seems to be the preferred Merge target article. XFDCloser just allows for one Merge target but of course, content can be used in other articles as long as attribution is provided. Liz Read! Talk! 03:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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- List of US House speaker elections decided by multiple ballots ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
No concensus for fork, can be covered sufficiently at List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections Esolo5002 ( talk) 03:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: A content fork is a "piece of content [...] that has the same scope as another piece of content". This article is clearly a much narrower scope, and offers additional information in a concise format. Additionally, the list of all speaker elections is of enormous length already and inflating its size is not warranted, per WP:LENGTH. It also meets the criteria for stand-alone lists. [1] Hypnôs ( talk) 03:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Politics, Lists, and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- (update) Merge Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections, now that a good target has been found. (original) Keep. In addition to above, also meets WP:LISTPURP as an informational list. — siro χ o 04:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep it's true that this is a fork, but due its narrow scope, it meets the criteria of WP:NLIST. With the notability of the current speaker elections once again not meeting the first vote threshold, it is also notable again. Conyo14 ( talk) 05:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge No need for a separate page. This table is of modest size and WP:LENGTH refers to prose size. Reywas92 Talk 13:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge There is no need for a stand-alone list article. Though formatted differently, this article is a content fork. The table could also be easily merged into
Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections.
Drdpw (
talk)
15:18, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think that's probably a better merge target than the big list. — siro χ o 16:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections. As others have said, this is a content fork and there is no objection to the content of the list. -- Enos733 ( talk) 20:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections per Reywas92 and Drdpw. Sal2100 ( talk) 21:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge - Yeah, no clue why this is a separate article, should be merged immediately. Geko72290 ( talk) 21:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to either List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections or Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections. I personally prefer the former and think the table could reasonably be included there (maybe with a few columns trimmed). If this page is kept, it should be moved to List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections decided by multiple ballots for naming consistency. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 01:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Move to and merge with both by using
WP:TRANS and retaining the table format used in the current page.
- List of Speaker of the United States House of Representatives elections under a new Heading, "Elections with Multiple Ballots."
- Speaker of the United States House of Representatives under new Sub-heading 1, "Elections with Multiple Ballots" within the existing Heading, " Notable elections."
- I strongly suggest retaining the current table format as it allows one to quickly compare them. I think it should be moved to one of the page and included in other using Transclusion, if it decided against keeping as separate page 2861969nyc ( talk) 21:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections per everyone else. Corgi Stays ( talk) 01:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with both using WP:TRANS as above. Not sure which page it should be moved to and which should use transclusion. However, I will say that having this as a separate page has proved useful to me by being available in ″see also″ sections. NHammen ( talk) 12:54, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with both (transclusion) per above. This is a useful list and belongs on both pages if not its standalone article. Davey2116 ( talk) 15:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with Speaker of the United States House of Representatives#Notable elections as proposed by others. I also actually object to the inclusion of the current Speaker election on this list, and given that this list seems to have been created in response to the current election, question the need for a separate list. The reason is that, so far, the current speaker election does not qualify for inclusion on this list. It has gone multiple ballots, but it has not been decided yet, and therefore does not belong on a list of decided elections. It remains entirely possible that the current election will never be decided, and some other solution--like giving McHenry some additional powers without formally electing him speaker or formally resolving the election--may be adopted. So I favor a merge, but if we keep the list as is, the current election does not belong on this list until it has been decided, which it has not as yet. Dash77 ( talk) 17:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge. Terrific table to have. Just does not need to be its own standalone page. SecretName101 ( talk) 05:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to both with bias toward deletion if merge is unsuccessful. This does not pass WP:NLIST and is (contrary to opinion above) clearly a WP:CONTENTFORK. You don't have to replicate the entire scope to duplicate existing articles' coverage. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 14:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.