The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Trivialist, Nice seeing you again. I have had this discussion before with
NatGertler. I did not create this wiki page, but we did add some R rated comic book films to this page. It is interesting that this page is again being considered for deletion. You should wait until more editors arrive to have a thorough debate on this discussion.
Cardei012597 (
talk)
19:10, 6 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The only reason I did not file this AFD myself back when I was keeping an eye on it (I've de-watchlisted it) is listicles like
this,
this, and
this... which didn't convince me that this page was needed (the OP's concerns are valid), but made me not feel like putting up the fight. The earlier discussion Cardei mentioned can be found
here. --
Nat Gertler (
talk)
19:53, 6 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete Unnecessary cross-categorization without reliable sources establishing notability and why R-rated comics movies are unique compared to G-rated comics movies or R-rated comedies. Listicles that do not discuss the topic with substance do not count.
Reywas92Talk04:35, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep as per the reliable sources coverage of the topic such as Nat Gertler's examples, R-rated comics adaptions do have a distinctive genre to pg or pg-13 films so a list is acceptable imv, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Two of those three sources focus on R-rated superhero comic adaptations, which I think only get attention in the "Bam! Pow! Comics aren't just for kids anymore" kind of way. The Cinemablend has more variety, but still starts with "Don't ever let anyone tell you that comic books and comic book movies are solely for younger audiences."
Argento Surfer (
talk)
13:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Actually, both the ScreenRant and the Cinemablend ones cover comics adaptations in general (despite the URL, the ScreenRant one has such non-superhero fare as A History of Violence and Road to Perdition.) However, the Digitalspy one isn't even limited to adaptations; it includes original superhero films such as Super and Darkman. The idea that receiving one specific rating from one of many groups that rates movies makes it a "genre" is befuddling to me... and in some of the cases listed, it's only a specific edit that got that particular rating, so its hard to say its something that speaks particularly to the nature of the film. --
Nat Gertler (
talk)
14:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete as a non-notable cross categorisation. Majority of the sources just link to Rotten Tomatoes, which doesn't offer anything substational to
WP:LISTN.
Ajf773 (
talk)
10:08, 9 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Trivialist, Nice seeing you again. I have had this discussion before with
NatGertler. I did not create this wiki page, but we did add some R rated comic book films to this page. It is interesting that this page is again being considered for deletion. You should wait until more editors arrive to have a thorough debate on this discussion.
Cardei012597 (
talk)
19:10, 6 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The only reason I did not file this AFD myself back when I was keeping an eye on it (I've de-watchlisted it) is listicles like
this,
this, and
this... which didn't convince me that this page was needed (the OP's concerns are valid), but made me not feel like putting up the fight. The earlier discussion Cardei mentioned can be found
here. --
Nat Gertler (
talk)
19:53, 6 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete Unnecessary cross-categorization without reliable sources establishing notability and why R-rated comics movies are unique compared to G-rated comics movies or R-rated comedies. Listicles that do not discuss the topic with substance do not count.
Reywas92Talk04:35, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep as per the reliable sources coverage of the topic such as Nat Gertler's examples, R-rated comics adaptions do have a distinctive genre to pg or pg-13 films so a list is acceptable imv, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Two of those three sources focus on R-rated superhero comic adaptations, which I think only get attention in the "Bam! Pow! Comics aren't just for kids anymore" kind of way. The Cinemablend has more variety, but still starts with "Don't ever let anyone tell you that comic books and comic book movies are solely for younger audiences."
Argento Surfer (
talk)
13:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Actually, both the ScreenRant and the Cinemablend ones cover comics adaptations in general (despite the URL, the ScreenRant one has such non-superhero fare as A History of Violence and Road to Perdition.) However, the Digitalspy one isn't even limited to adaptations; it includes original superhero films such as Super and Darkman. The idea that receiving one specific rating from one of many groups that rates movies makes it a "genre" is befuddling to me... and in some of the cases listed, it's only a specific edit that got that particular rating, so its hard to say its something that speaks particularly to the nature of the film. --
Nat Gertler (
talk)
14:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete as a non-notable cross categorisation. Majority of the sources just link to Rotten Tomatoes, which doesn't offer anything substational to
WP:LISTN.
Ajf773 (
talk)
10:08, 9 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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