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The result was delete.  JGHowes  ^talk 01:33, 16 October 2020 (UTC) reply

List of Bollywood villain actors

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This seems like a rather pointless thing to list people for. ★Trekker ( talk) 23:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. ★Trekker ( talk) 23:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Obviously WP:OR and WP:POV issues. Ajf773 ( talk) 23:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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• Delete because of WP:POV issues. Balle010 ( talk) 02:14, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete - a list like this will always have major issues; one person's villain is another person's antihero; how many sources need to call someone a villain before they can be listed here? What if someone has more than one 'landmark role'? What if someone almost always plays a protagonist but has one notable antagonist role? Should they be listed here? This whole article looks like someone's own personal project and isn't appropriate for Wikipedia at all Spiderone 08:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep We have numerous lists of villains and so the concept and classification is well-established here. It seems easy to source notable examples – see the Encyclopaedia of Hindi Cinema, for example. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ Andrew Davidson: This isn't a list of villains, its a list of Bollywood actors who have played villains. ★Trekker ( talk) 10:26, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Close enough. I am familiar with Hollywood actors who were known for playing villains, such as Wallace Beery and Jack Palance. My impression is that Bollywood productions are quite meolodramatic and stereotyped and so the concept will be especially strong there. Andrew🐉( talk) 10:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
      • "Close enough" isnt really good enough in my opinion. There are tons of American actors who are known for playing villains, but I don't think listing people by role type is very Wikipedia fitting. ★Trekker ( talk) 10:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
        • It's better than the nomination's "rather pointless". See WP:POT and WP:SAUCE. Andrew🐉( talk) 17:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
          • Yeah no. Can't agree with that. ★Trekker ( talk) 18:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete WP:OR and contravenes the policy of WP:ANTAGONIST.-- Ab207 ( talk) 15:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Very good point re. WP:ANTAGONIST. I was not aware of that previously. Spiderone 17:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply

WP:ANTAGONIST is a bad point taken out of context. It refers to articles about individual films in which "a well-written plot summary should convey such roles". The topic we have here is different and the relevant guideline is WP:LISTN which it clearly passes. See Times of India, for example. Andrew🐉( talk) 17:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Again, this article lists actors, not their characters. ★Trekker ( talk) 18:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Actors cannot be labelled as antagonists, which is what the list is doing. So its well within the context, in my view. -- Ab207 ( talk) 17:48, 10 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Yes I agree it should be deleted. ★Trekker ( talk) 22:25, 10 October 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete: WP:OR and WP:POV issues   //  Timothy ::  talk  20:39, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete at per nom. William Harris (talk) 22:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete - looks almost a joke, even a speedy delete would be in place. Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:22, 10 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete An actor who plays a villain in one film could play a hero in another. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 13:34, 12 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete per above. Pointless list. GhostDestroyer100 ( talk) 19:08, 13 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete per User:Spiderone how would we decide what belongs on the list? Spudlace ( talk) 03:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete as WP:LISTCRUFT. Zing^{( Talk!)} 03:31, 15 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• delete This is pure original research, and POV. Just one example Boman Irani′s character is not a villain in the film Munnabhai MBBS. The character is simply someone who is not on the same terms with protagonist. Thats not even addressing the sourcing concerns. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:42, 15 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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