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The result was no consensus. Killiondude ( talk) 23:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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Written like an advertisement, probably by someone close to the subject. No referencing, content only comprehensible for a very select audience.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Curlymanjaro ( talk • contribs) 12:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep. No valid reason given for deletion. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:47, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Actually Hawkeye gave no reason to keep this article. It lacks even one source that is an indepdent, secondary one that counts as a reliable source. Beyond that, the subject does not meet the notability guidelines for sportspeople.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 05:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
- The onus is on the editor nominating an article for deletion to make a case for it. As to yours, it doesn't matter if the article is a stub, or has no sources. Rather, you need to demonstrate that there is no independent coverage in reliable sources. In this case, the article is far from being stub, it does have sources, although they are not cited properly, and independent, reliable coverage does exist. His role as a pioneer of an obscure sport adds to his notability, as coverage reflects more than routine coverage of events, and he has participated in world championships of his sport. ie competed at the highest level. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment. Lack of sources does in the article does not equate to failing notability guidelines. He's undoubtedly a world class competitor, but in a decidedly minority sport. The coverage that exists largely backs up much of the content of the article, e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4]. -- Michig ( talk) 18:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weak Keep- I can't read the Spanish articles, but they seem to mention Mcqueen multiple times and may help establish notability. It debatable if he participates in a legit sport, but I don't see why he can't be notable as a stuntman. Of course the current state of the article is garbage, it needs a lot of work. Some sources seem to exist, but they need to be cited. Regardless of position, everyone who votes here should give some type of policy reason for their vote.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 04:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Keep While article provide no incline citation, sources do appear in the article. As subject is active in minor sport, independent coverage do meet WP:SPORTSPERSON basic guidelines. CASSIOPEIA ( talk) 11:28, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Killiondude ( talk) 23:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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Written like an advertisement, probably by someone close to the subject. No referencing, content only comprehensible for a very select audience.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Curlymanjaro ( talk • contribs) 12:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep. No valid reason given for deletion. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:47, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Actually Hawkeye gave no reason to keep this article. It lacks even one source that is an indepdent, secondary one that counts as a reliable source. Beyond that, the subject does not meet the notability guidelines for sportspeople.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 05:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
- The onus is on the editor nominating an article for deletion to make a case for it. As to yours, it doesn't matter if the article is a stub, or has no sources. Rather, you need to demonstrate that there is no independent coverage in reliable sources. In this case, the article is far from being stub, it does have sources, although they are not cited properly, and independent, reliable coverage does exist. His role as a pioneer of an obscure sport adds to his notability, as coverage reflects more than routine coverage of events, and he has participated in world championships of his sport. ie competed at the highest level. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment. Lack of sources does in the article does not equate to failing notability guidelines. He's undoubtedly a world class competitor, but in a decidedly minority sport. The coverage that exists largely backs up much of the content of the article, e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4]. -- Michig ( talk) 18:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Keep- I can't read the Spanish articles, but they seem to mention Mcqueen multiple times and may help establish notability. It debatable if he participates in a legit sport, but I don't see why he can't be notable as a stuntman. Of course the current state of the article is garbage, it needs a lot of work. Some sources seem to exist, but they need to be cited. Regardless of position, everyone who votes here should give some type of policy reason for their vote.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 04:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Keep While article provide no incline citation, sources do appear in the article. As subject is active in minor sport, independent coverage do meet WP:SPORTSPERSON basic guidelines. CASSIOPEIA ( talk) 11:28, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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