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The result was Redirect to OfflineTV#LilyPichu. Consensus that this person is not notable. ( non-admin closure) Devonian Wombat ( talk) 01:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
LilyPichu
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I proposed this article for merging earlier as it did not seem to pass WP:SIGCOV or the BLP WP:GNG and failed to warrant a standalone article, the article comprises of many YouTube links. I noticed a couple of odd things regarding this article, after the merge consensus was met and the discussion was closed, (apart from new additions) I discovered that most, if not all the information on this subject was copied and pasted from the subject's subsection on another page OfflineTV#LilyPichu, making it impossible to move information to complete the merge as the information is already there. I also noticed that there's no history I could find regarding the article passing or being put up for the AFC to be reviewed, nor is there any article information on the talk page regarding the class or level of importance the article conveys. I hope we could come to a consensus on this topic and put these contradictions to rest. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 17:40, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment. I deprodded this article because the nom appeared to be asking for a redirect. If you want to merge and redirect, just do it. No need to delete anything. pburka ( talk) 18:47, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I understand, but what I'm trying to convey is that the information presented on this article's page is already on the page that it was to be merged with. I made a mistake in not realizing it earlier but all the information had been lifted from the page that was to receive the merge information. Just to summarize, there's no point having this page around and going ahead with the merge as the article that was to receive the merge information, already has all of it because the editor copied the information form that page itself. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 18:59, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Redirect to OfflineTV#LilyPichu as suggested by the nominator. I would not be opposed to deleting it altogether, but this is turning into a bit of a procedural mess. In any case, LilyPichu has some minor media notice in her line of work and that is sufficient for a mention over at the OfflineTV article. This separate article tries to flesh things out with unreliable video links and information about her personal life, which is not only non-notable but also comes with a "who cares?" quality. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 14:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Aside from the fact of supporting deletion, can someone explain how this page made it to the main space in the first place, I can't find any history of an AFC review, nor any information on the talk page, is there another way? by moving perhaps?. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 16:30, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Any confirmed user can create pages in main space: it's how most pages are created. Why do you oppose redirecting? It seems like a useful search term at the very least. pburka ( talk) 17:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- I think you've misunderstood what I've said, I understand the first bit 100 percent, but I was always under the impression that in order to publish a page you need to pass the AFC, where reviewers would undertake the vetted process of identifying if the article meets general notability guidelines or if not, this was my first time coming across an article without any information regarding the article class or level of importance on the talk page nor any log of a AFC review being done. Also I'm keen on the deletion of this page because the information regarding the individual is already covered extensively here OfflineTV#LilyPichu and here OfflineTV#SleightlyMusical thus I feel it's pointless just conveying the same information again, aside from that her work isn't notable in terms of what she has accomplished, these accomplishments have also been met by others in that space, who don't warrant their own article. I feel whatever is in here OfflineTV#LilyPichu is more than enough, the rest are just passing mentions, at least until she does something more notable of course
- WP:AFC is not mandatory: the process is "intended to assist editors who cannot (e.g. non-registered or non-autoconfirmed users) or should not (e.g. people with a conflict of interest), create new articles directly into mainspace." Usually, when we merge one page into another, we leave the old page as a WP:REDIRECT to the new one. This does not require deleting the old page. The old one acts as a hint to search engines (including the built-in one) that searches for, e.g. "LilyPichu", should be directed to, e.g. OfflineTV#LilyPichu. The redirect page can also be included in categories, e.g. Category:Twitch (service) streamers. That's why I'm recommending that the page not be deleted. pburka ( talk) 18:05, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I see, thank you for explaining and addressing the confusion I had, I actually wasn't aware of these factors including the doubts I had regarding the AFC, I'm comfortable with this redirect, now that I'm aware and understand what it's all about. Thank you! Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 18:26, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to OfflineTV#LilyPichu: Per nominator. ASTIG😎 ( ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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The result was Redirect to OfflineTV#LilyPichu. Consensus that this person is not notable. ( non-admin closure) Devonian Wombat ( talk) 01:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
LilyPichu
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I proposed this article for merging earlier as it did not seem to pass WP:SIGCOV or the BLP WP:GNG and failed to warrant a standalone article, the article comprises of many YouTube links. I noticed a couple of odd things regarding this article, after the merge consensus was met and the discussion was closed, (apart from new additions) I discovered that most, if not all the information on this subject was copied and pasted from the subject's subsection on another page OfflineTV#LilyPichu, making it impossible to move information to complete the merge as the information is already there. I also noticed that there's no history I could find regarding the article passing or being put up for the AFC to be reviewed, nor is there any article information on the talk page regarding the class or level of importance the article conveys. I hope we could come to a consensus on this topic and put these contradictions to rest. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 17:40, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2020 July 11. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 18:03, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. I deprodded this article because the nom appeared to be asking for a redirect. If you want to merge and redirect, just do it. No need to delete anything. pburka ( talk) 18:47, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I understand, but what I'm trying to convey is that the information presented on this article's page is already on the page that it was to be merged with. I made a mistake in not realizing it earlier but all the information had been lifted from the page that was to receive the merge information. Just to summarize, there's no point having this page around and going ahead with the merge as the article that was to receive the merge information, already has all of it because the editor copied the information form that page itself. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 18:59, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 19:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 19:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 19:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 20:00, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to OfflineTV#LilyPichu as suggested by the nominator. I would not be opposed to deleting it altogether, but this is turning into a bit of a procedural mess. In any case, LilyPichu has some minor media notice in her line of work and that is sufficient for a mention over at the OfflineTV article. This separate article tries to flesh things out with unreliable video links and information about her personal life, which is not only non-notable but also comes with a "who cares?" quality. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 14:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Aside from the fact of supporting deletion, can someone explain how this page made it to the main space in the first place, I can't find any history of an AFC review, nor any information on the talk page, is there another way? by moving perhaps?. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 16:30, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Any confirmed user can create pages in main space: it's how most pages are created. Why do you oppose redirecting? It seems like a useful search term at the very least. pburka ( talk) 17:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- I think you've misunderstood what I've said, I understand the first bit 100 percent, but I was always under the impression that in order to publish a page you need to pass the AFC, where reviewers would undertake the vetted process of identifying if the article meets general notability guidelines or if not, this was my first time coming across an article without any information regarding the article class or level of importance on the talk page nor any log of a AFC review being done. Also I'm keen on the deletion of this page because the information regarding the individual is already covered extensively here OfflineTV#LilyPichu and here OfflineTV#SleightlyMusical thus I feel it's pointless just conveying the same information again, aside from that her work isn't notable in terms of what she has accomplished, these accomplishments have also been met by others in that space, who don't warrant their own article. I feel whatever is in here OfflineTV#LilyPichu is more than enough, the rest are just passing mentions, at least until she does something more notable of course
- WP:AFC is not mandatory: the process is "intended to assist editors who cannot (e.g. non-registered or non-autoconfirmed users) or should not (e.g. people with a conflict of interest), create new articles directly into mainspace." Usually, when we merge one page into another, we leave the old page as a WP:REDIRECT to the new one. This does not require deleting the old page. The old one acts as a hint to search engines (including the built-in one) that searches for, e.g. "LilyPichu", should be directed to, e.g. OfflineTV#LilyPichu. The redirect page can also be included in categories, e.g. Category:Twitch (service) streamers. That's why I'm recommending that the page not be deleted. pburka ( talk) 18:05, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I see, thank you for explaining and addressing the confusion I had, I actually wasn't aware of these factors including the doubts I had regarding the AFC, I'm comfortable with this redirect, now that I'm aware and understand what it's all about. Thank you! Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 18:26, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to OfflineTV#LilyPichu: Per nominator. ASTIG😎 ( ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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