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No citations, no specific claim to notability, no specific years played making this impossible to verify. google web search turns up no hits for `"Leo Murray" "bohemians" "ireland"`.
Lizthegrey (
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10:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Doesn't appear to meet
WP:SPORTBASIC ("Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources"). Per nom, a search of national news sources (like
the Irish Examiner or
the Irish Times or similar) returns nothing. Not even passing mentions. A search through the Irish Newspapers Archives platform returns a handful of passing mentions, including in Dublin's
Evening Herald newspaper (which covers/covered national and regional association football games). And, perhaps(?), two results in
the Irish Independent. However, these are all just passing mentions in match reports. And, even if each mention is the same Leo Murray, only confirms that he played with a few (amateur?) teams in Dublin during the 1960s (Bohs and Fairview CYMS?). Which wouldn't automatically indicate notability. Absent a claim to notability in the body, and coverage to the extent that
WP:SPORTBASIC is met, I cannot see how can support retention....
Guliolopez (
talk)
11:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Move to draft, to provide a decent amount of time to search for plausible sources. If the date of birth supplied in the article is correct, there is an actuarial probability that this subject has died, and an obituary is sitting somewhere.
BD2412T22:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Why do we think more time will help? This article has had the BLP sources template on it since March 2008. It can always be re-created if sources do turn up other than a single pamphlet/event programme that a fan says they had two decades ago which nobody else can verify.
Lizthegrey (
talk)
00:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
No citations, no specific claim to notability, no specific years played making this impossible to verify. google web search turns up no hits for `"Leo Murray" "bohemians" "ireland"`.
Lizthegrey (
talk)
10:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Doesn't appear to meet
WP:SPORTBASIC ("Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources"). Per nom, a search of national news sources (like
the Irish Examiner or
the Irish Times or similar) returns nothing. Not even passing mentions. A search through the Irish Newspapers Archives platform returns a handful of passing mentions, including in Dublin's
Evening Herald newspaper (which covers/covered national and regional association football games). And, perhaps(?), two results in
the Irish Independent. However, these are all just passing mentions in match reports. And, even if each mention is the same Leo Murray, only confirms that he played with a few (amateur?) teams in Dublin during the 1960s (Bohs and Fairview CYMS?). Which wouldn't automatically indicate notability. Absent a claim to notability in the body, and coverage to the extent that
WP:SPORTBASIC is met, I cannot see how can support retention....
Guliolopez (
talk)
11:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Move to draft, to provide a decent amount of time to search for plausible sources. If the date of birth supplied in the article is correct, there is an actuarial probability that this subject has died, and an obituary is sitting somewhere.
BD2412T22:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Why do we think more time will help? This article has had the BLP sources template on it since March 2008. It can always be re-created if sources do turn up other than a single pamphlet/event programme that a fan says they had two decades ago which nobody else can verify.
Lizthegrey (
talk)
00:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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