- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. With no one arguing for deletion, a discussion on whether to keep or merge (and where to) can continue editorially. Star Mississippi 13:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Leipziger Platz 12
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Fails WP:NBUILDING as lacking "significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources". Unclear what this article is actually supposed to be about given its title is an address but it is categorised in Category:Diplomatic missions of the United Kingdom. AusLondonder ( talk) 16:03, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture and Germany. Shellwood ( talk) 17:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. The material present is sourced to a book chapter (Eva-Marie Krolle. "The New Canadian Embassy in Berlin", pp. 350–51) which cites a book about the square: Louis Back, Laurenz Demps Der Leipziger Platz: Gestern und Morgen, p. 46 (Braun, 2002). A casual search of Google Books finds several hits in Tanja Schult, Jochen Visscher, Hans Wilderotter Der Leipziger Platz, Leipziger Platz Carre, Lennedreieck: urbane Architektur für das neue Berlin (Jovis, 2002) as well as some possibilities in Fredric Bedoire The Jewish Contribution to Modern Architecture, 1830-1930 (KTAV, 2004). Lots more possible hits in Google Books but mainly German-language snippet view.
Espresso Addict (
talk) 22:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Book mentions of
Leipziger Platz do not contribute to the notability of this individual address. These really seem very trivial mentions in works about the square or other topics.
AusLondonder (
talk) 12:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- There seems to have been quite a lot of discussion of the history of the square, and of its individual buildings, in the context of the recent rebuilding. I'm really unclear as to the rationale for deleting this. Espresso Addict ( talk) 23:28, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Book mentions of
Leipziger Platz do not contribute to the notability of this individual address. These really seem very trivial mentions in works about the square or other topics.
AusLondonder (
talk) 12:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as above. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 00:50, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mythdon ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge, perhaps, to Leipziger Platz article, which itself is short, and could contain mention of this building as having been significant there. Currently the article doesn't have much content, while I presume that it would be possible to describe the building and its architecture. Note the lede sentence "Leipziger Platz 12 was the address of a former mansion designed by Friedrich Hitzig in Berlin, Germany", as if it is about the address not the building/mansion. If the mansion were covered in the Leipziger Platz article, it would add context there to considering the overall Platz's development/replacement of former mansions etc. -- Doncram ( talk) 23:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: "LP12" or "Leipziger Platz 12" seems to be a name for the entire Mall of Berlin historic/huge development which immediately or eventually replaced that mansion: "The Mall of Berlin is huge. But it doesn’t look like it. At least not at first sight. Because the official name of ‘LP12 Mall of Berlin’ is a little misleading. ‘LP12’ stands for Leipziger Platz 12 and it’s the address for the main entrance, if there is such a thing...." per this article on "the 12 at the octagon". -- Doncram ( talk) 23:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge with Friedrich Hitzig or Leipziger Platz. The address has no notability in itself and also no entry in German. Erdpferd ( talk) 10:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. With no one arguing for deletion, a discussion on whether to keep or merge (and where to) can continue editorially. Star Mississippi 13:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Leipziger Platz 12
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- Leipziger Platz 12 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NBUILDING as lacking "significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources". Unclear what this article is actually supposed to be about given its title is an address but it is categorised in Category:Diplomatic missions of the United Kingdom. AusLondonder ( talk) 16:03, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture and Germany. Shellwood ( talk) 17:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. The material present is sourced to a book chapter (Eva-Marie Krolle. "The New Canadian Embassy in Berlin", pp. 350–51) which cites a book about the square: Louis Back, Laurenz Demps Der Leipziger Platz: Gestern und Morgen, p. 46 (Braun, 2002). A casual search of Google Books finds several hits in Tanja Schult, Jochen Visscher, Hans Wilderotter Der Leipziger Platz, Leipziger Platz Carre, Lennedreieck: urbane Architektur für das neue Berlin (Jovis, 2002) as well as some possibilities in Fredric Bedoire The Jewish Contribution to Modern Architecture, 1830-1930 (KTAV, 2004). Lots more possible hits in Google Books but mainly German-language snippet view.
Espresso Addict (
talk) 22:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Book mentions of
Leipziger Platz do not contribute to the notability of this individual address. These really seem very trivial mentions in works about the square or other topics.
AusLondonder (
talk) 12:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- There seems to have been quite a lot of discussion of the history of the square, and of its individual buildings, in the context of the recent rebuilding. I'm really unclear as to the rationale for deleting this. Espresso Addict ( talk) 23:28, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Book mentions of
Leipziger Platz do not contribute to the notability of this individual address. These really seem very trivial mentions in works about the square or other topics.
AusLondonder (
talk) 12:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as above. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 00:50, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mythdon ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge, perhaps, to Leipziger Platz article, which itself is short, and could contain mention of this building as having been significant there. Currently the article doesn't have much content, while I presume that it would be possible to describe the building and its architecture. Note the lede sentence "Leipziger Platz 12 was the address of a former mansion designed by Friedrich Hitzig in Berlin, Germany", as if it is about the address not the building/mansion. If the mansion were covered in the Leipziger Platz article, it would add context there to considering the overall Platz's development/replacement of former mansions etc. -- Doncram ( talk) 23:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: "LP12" or "Leipziger Platz 12" seems to be a name for the entire Mall of Berlin historic/huge development which immediately or eventually replaced that mansion: "The Mall of Berlin is huge. But it doesn’t look like it. At least not at first sight. Because the official name of ‘LP12 Mall of Berlin’ is a little misleading. ‘LP12’ stands for Leipziger Platz 12 and it’s the address for the main entrance, if there is such a thing...." per this article on "the 12 at the octagon". -- Doncram ( talk) 23:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge with Friedrich Hitzig or Leipziger Platz. The address has no notability in itself and also no entry in German. Erdpferd ( talk) 10:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.