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The result was delete. Vanamonde ( Talk) 15:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
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Does not appear to meet notability guidelines. References are often self-published, or parroting unverifiable claims made by the artist. For example one reference contains the oft-repeated claim that the artist won the "HugFest Artist Appreciation Award" in 2017. Either this award is so insignificant even the internet hasn't noticed its existence, or it is completely made up. According to a video on Lele XO's own Youtube channel Hugfest was held at Harbor House in Detroit, MI. Yet searches for "HugFest" "harbor house" or "HugFest" "detroit" 2017 provide no evidence this event happened at all, which in the days of everything being publicised across multiple social media platforms is unusual to say the least. The claim of a single rearching #110 on SNEP Charts in France should also be taken with a pinch of salt. The reference is actually for downloaded albums (note, for some reason Chrome confusingly translates "Top Albums Téléchargés" as "Top Albums Uploaded" while translating "Top Singles Téléchargés" as "Top Singles Downloaded"), the general albums chart can be seen here and doesn't have LeLe XO in the top 200. I haven't been able to independently verify any of the claims about iTunes charts. FDW777 ( talk) 20:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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KEEP - References were not self published and it appears that the person who put in for the deletion has targeted this page repeatedly. The policy below should be considered. When it was possible to find links updates can and should be made instead of deletions by editors. I have found links and sources and added them with ease. Main page: Wikipedia:Editing policy If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Vandalism to a page's content can be reverted by any user.
Disputes over page content are usually not dealt with by deleting the page, except in severe cases. The content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used first, such as listing on Wikipedia:Requests for comments for further input. Deletion discussions that are really unresolved content disputes may be closed by an uninvolved editor, and referred to the talk page or other appropriate forum.
Disagreement over a policy or guideline is not dealt with by deleting it. Similarly, issues with an inappropriate user page can often be resolved through discussion with the user.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rinkgypsy007 ( talk • contribs) — Rinkgypsy007 contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment I have made other contributions to the topics I know about when time permits. Rinkgypsy007 ( talk)( talk • ~
- Yes, edits such as adding LeLe XO's family members to other articles, which is quite telling. FDW777 ( talk) 17:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Clearly not vandalism, neither were any of my other edits to the page. The comment above does nothing to address the person failing notability guidelines, and should be ignored. FDW777 ( talk) 08:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- CommentThis wiki seems to be started to expand the POP category (reference talk page by original wiki writer) FDW777 only put in for deletion when he became inflamed when his retractive edit was undone. They have repeatedly targeted this wiki eliminating posts to dismantle the Wiki after that. (edit warring)
- The Hug Detroit festival does exist [1], [2], but I can't see any indication that this is a notable award ceremony. Richard3120 ( talk) 10:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Do you live in Detroit? Perhaps it's a significant award ceremony there. Not every notable event happens in LA or NEW York. Detroit has a rich history of music (Motown)
- Comment Yes, I saw "Hugfest Awards" had been changed to "Hug Detroit Spirit Awards" since the nomination. Sadly this does raise the problem that the sources that parrot the HugFest Artist Appreciation Award in 2017 claim are unreliable, since they have failed rather miserably on fact checking and accuracy. FDW777 ( talk) 10:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment The website states awards ceremony has gone on for 9 years. Other than the Detroit Music awards (26 years), which she is nominated for it appears to be the only local awards event Rinkgypsy007 ( talk) 17:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - At this time, there are 38 references in the article, yet not a single one of them establishes notability. The bulk of the referencing simply verifies facts such as links to itunes or event listings and do nothing to establish notability. There are sites which list the singer's profile information, but are simply directories. What little there is in terms of articles are interviews and what reads as regurgitations of press release hype. -- Whpq ( talk) 13:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- delete Lacks the coverage to meet the GNG and don't see anything that shows she meets WP:NSINGER. Sandals1 ( talk) 14:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Vanamonde ( Talk) 15:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
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- LeLe XO ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Does not appear to meet notability guidelines. References are often self-published, or parroting unverifiable claims made by the artist. For example one reference contains the oft-repeated claim that the artist won the "HugFest Artist Appreciation Award" in 2017. Either this award is so insignificant even the internet hasn't noticed its existence, or it is completely made up. According to a video on Lele XO's own Youtube channel Hugfest was held at Harbor House in Detroit, MI. Yet searches for "HugFest" "harbor house" or "HugFest" "detroit" 2017 provide no evidence this event happened at all, which in the days of everything being publicised across multiple social media platforms is unusual to say the least. The claim of a single rearching #110 on SNEP Charts in France should also be taken with a pinch of salt. The reference is actually for downloaded albums (note, for some reason Chrome confusingly translates "Top Albums Téléchargés" as "Top Albums Uploaded" while translating "Top Singles Téléchargés" as "Top Singles Downloaded"), the general albums chart can be seen here and doesn't have LeLe XO in the top 200. I haven't been able to independently verify any of the claims about iTunes charts. FDW777 ( talk) 20:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:39, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Editing and discussion
KEEP - References were not self published and it appears that the person who put in for the deletion has targeted this page repeatedly. The policy below should be considered. When it was possible to find links updates can and should be made instead of deletions by editors. I have found links and sources and added them with ease. Main page: Wikipedia:Editing policy If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Vandalism to a page's content can be reverted by any user.
Disputes over page content are usually not dealt with by deleting the page, except in severe cases. The content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used first, such as listing on Wikipedia:Requests for comments for further input. Deletion discussions that are really unresolved content disputes may be closed by an uninvolved editor, and referred to the talk page or other appropriate forum.
Disagreement over a policy or guideline is not dealt with by deleting it. Similarly, issues with an inappropriate user page can often be resolved through discussion with the user.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rinkgypsy007 ( talk • contribs) — Rinkgypsy007 contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment I have made other contributions to the topics I know about when time permits. Rinkgypsy007 ( talk)( talk • ~
- Yes, edits such as adding LeLe XO's family members to other articles, which is quite telling. FDW777 ( talk) 17:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Clearly not vandalism, neither were any of my other edits to the page. The comment above does nothing to address the person failing notability guidelines, and should be ignored. FDW777 ( talk) 08:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- CommentThis wiki seems to be started to expand the POP category (reference talk page by original wiki writer) FDW777 only put in for deletion when he became inflamed when his retractive edit was undone. They have repeatedly targeted this wiki eliminating posts to dismantle the Wiki after that. (edit warring)
- The Hug Detroit festival does exist [1], [2], but I can't see any indication that this is a notable award ceremony. Richard3120 ( talk) 10:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Do you live in Detroit? Perhaps it's a significant award ceremony there. Not every notable event happens in LA or NEW York. Detroit has a rich history of music (Motown)
- Comment Yes, I saw "Hugfest Awards" had been changed to "Hug Detroit Spirit Awards" since the nomination. Sadly this does raise the problem that the sources that parrot the HugFest Artist Appreciation Award in 2017 claim are unreliable, since they have failed rather miserably on fact checking and accuracy. FDW777 ( talk) 10:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment The website states awards ceremony has gone on for 9 years. Other than the Detroit Music awards (26 years), which she is nominated for it appears to be the only local awards event Rinkgypsy007 ( talk) 17:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - At this time, there are 38 references in the article, yet not a single one of them establishes notability. The bulk of the referencing simply verifies facts such as links to itunes or event listings and do nothing to establish notability. There are sites which list the singer's profile information, but are simply directories. What little there is in terms of articles are interviews and what reads as regurgitations of press release hype. -- Whpq ( talk) 13:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- delete Lacks the coverage to meet the GNG and don't see anything that shows she meets WP:NSINGER. Sandals1 ( talk) 14:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.